58% and rising

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Originally Posted by noahrab

Plays to the ‘big bad English Tory basturds stealing our money’ narrative.

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Braveheart was on Sony movies last night.

They will ahh be pumped up as **** today.

You mind how you go.😁

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Braveheart was on Sony movies last night.

They will ahh be pumped up as **** today.

You mind how you go.

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I’ll be watching my back >:)

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Braveheart was on Sony movies last night.

They will ahh be pumped up as **** today.

You mind how you go.��

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****e movie

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

You are correct.
There has never been a fund set aside for the payment of old age pensions.
The payment of old age pensions is paid out of current taxation.
Someone previously correctly posted that there are not enough high earners working and living in Scotland.
This has been made worse by the former cabinet secretary for finance Derek MacKay bringing in Scottish taxation rates which means
that any employee in Scotland earning just over £26,000 per annum pays more tax than someone earning the same salary in the
rest of the U.K.
As a result there has been a shortfall in the protected amount of tax to be raised under the Scottish taxation scheme .
To date the Westminster Government has paid this shortfall by increasing the amount handed over as the block grant but it will not continue.
Eventually the Scottish Government will have to learn to stand on its own two feet if it wants have its own Scottish taxation rates.

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Do you ever try to verify anything you post on here or just quote pish from the Daily Mail or whatever other rags you read.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

No it dosent, there is no fund, no pool.

I cud pay a grand a week in NI or have my stamp paid cause I'm sick.

I'll get the same pension either way.

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The NI contributions to qualify for pension are low but if you don't pay them in enough years, you don't get the full pension. All semantics, I suppose. But the National Insurance Fund exists, maybe go check it out. Obviously it doesn't have anything stored up from previous years, the tories weren't too bothered about doing anything like that when they could have with the oil reserves.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

What is the name of this fund and what is its current balance.
If you do not know the balance you can easily find out by sending a Freedom of Information request to the U.K. Treasury.

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It's called the National Insurance Fund and the balance would be negative if the treasury didn't make up shortfalls due to tory economic policy meaning not enough people are earning enough to pay current pensioners. Of course, the millionaires who back the tories are happy with that, I suppose you are as well.

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Originally Posted by noahrab

I don’t think they did.

They rightly pointed out that an iScotland would have to fund pensions from day 1 and questioned the economics behind it.

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There was something from the treasury but obviously people like Gordon Brown said something totally different. It's impossible to say what would happen as everything would be up for negotiation but people who had paid NI conts all their lives to the UK wouldn't be happy having to rely on a new Scottish government to pay their pensions. I'd happily take a refund of all my NI conts and stick it into a Scottish pension fund.

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Originally Posted by Taintedice

There was something from the treasury but obviously people like Gordon Brown said something totally different. It's impossible to say what would happen as everything would be up for negotiation but people who had paid NI conts all their lives to the UK wouldn't be happy having to rely on a new Scottish government to pay their pensions. I'd happily take a refund of all my NI conts and stick it into a Scottish pension fund.

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The Scottish gov were dragged kicking and screaming by an FOI request to admit they would be responsible for pensions from day 1.

A lot of the daft independenistas think pensions would double or treble in an iScotland.

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Originally Posted by noahrab

We decided to stay part of the Uk back then and another one isn’t happening anytime soon.

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Staying as part of the UK wasn't on the ballot, it could be easily argued that staying in the EU was the overriding factor for a lot of people. certainly when you consider the numbers who voted against Brexit, that can't be dismissed so easily. But I think you're right, although unionists don't like Nicola Sturgeon, she seems to be on their side more than the indy supporters when it comes to a 2nd referendum. Also let's not forget that all the opposition parties in Dec 2019 had a second EU referendum in their manifestos.

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Originally Posted by Taintedice

Staying as part of the UK wasn't on the ballot, it could be easily argued that staying in the EU was the overriding factor for a lot of people. certainly when you consider the numbers who voted against Brexit, that can't be dismissed so easily. But I think you're right, although unionists don't like Nicola Sturgeon, she seems to be on their side more than the indy supporters when it comes to a 2nd referendum. Also let's not forget that all the opposition parties in Dec 2019 had a second EU referendum in their manifestos.

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The independence White Paper had reference to a No vote leading to leaving the EU as a referendum was mooted then.

Had we voted Yes we would’ve been out the EU anyway.