The Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

Two words. Blood clots. :blue:

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The risk of dying from a blood clot after a jab is even more miniscule, much more miniscule, than the miniscule risk of dying from Covid. I think one of the unintended consequences of Lockdown is the addling of people's brains.

Good news for holidaymakers not really looking forward to a caravan park in Knott End, Turkey will allow UK citizens in without a vax certificate or negative test proof. One drawback is, it's a bloody long walk, I've yet to see an airline saying they'll fly you there without your papers.

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

Two words. Blood clots. :blue:

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sorry BT previous post - I ready "Bloody Clots" - I wonder why ?

yes...all manner of rare and unusual Clots appearing - cases of cerebral vein thrombosis etc...

Dr. Gregory Michael, a 56-year-old obstetrician and gynecologist in Miami Beach, received the vaccine at Mount Sinai Medical Center on Dec. 18 and died 16 days later from a brain hemorrhage, his wife, Heidi Neckelmann, wrote in a Facebook post.

Shortly after receiving the vaccine, Dr. Michael developed an extremely serious form of a condition known as acute immune thrombocytopenia, which prevented his blood from clotting properly.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/h...ine-death.html

Germany suspends use of AstraZeneca vaccine over blood clot concerns

After new reports of thromboses of the cerebral veins in connection with the vaccination in Germany and Europe, the PEI considers further investigations to be necessary,” said the German health ministry, referring to a recommendation by the country’s vaccine authority, the Paul Ehrlich Institute.

More Countries Suspend Its Use Over Blood Clot Concerns

https://www.barrons.com/articles/ast...ns-51615814649

but what did we expect - it's not even a "Vaccine", not even been licensed - just rushed through under emergency powers, and as the manufacturers admit -they dont know how the body will respond to it, yet, or perhaps...they do ?

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Originally Posted by Balanbam00

Norder : What say you ? These so called experts are only as good as how deep science can go into small 'micro stuff', how good their machines are, their ability to discover smaller and smaller entities. Correct?
I am saying /writing about what they call a virus ,I say it is a crude name ,and we can say it is millions of parts in an electron ,and billions of parts in an atom. There is no name for entities so small, scientists are not there yet ,but we can give it a name 'microvita'.

Positive ideas carry positive or friendly microvita whereas negative idea or thought attract negative microvita. These microvita maintain the balance of the expressed creation.
Extreme negativity attracts negative microvita and creates new diseases. So, is coronavirus the outcome of a negative outlook and acute crudity or unimaginable negativity?
The world today is in a chaotic situation—in a destructive state. Negative microvita are attacking the planet. So what do these so called 'experts know??'

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is good when scientists admit how little they know - Balam.....the Geert Vanden Bossche vid, in it, he admits it, also the inventor (Mullis) of the PCR test, for him, they make it up as they like, guesswork - but most of them prefer to give the allusion that they know "everything" , that they have it all in hand....these the nutters who imagine they have all the answers, why?... it gets them a big fat cheque...so they can mess with microscopes, grow ears on the backs of mice etc...it unfortunate these Dr Moreau's are no longer confined to an Island - no, they been given a Planet on a plate - billions of people to play G*d with - feeding Fake Positivity, , spreading Fear and dread with the Illusion of concern - now they're growing it....as you say, "creating new diseases" to bolster their control...all now that the people have done the work to get them here - they're attempting to cleanse the system...for their sick and sterile image of the future.


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remember this - Former nurse struck it big with £1.8bn contract in PPE gold rush

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/f...rush-wnvlm866l


now there's this - Profits from PPE buy £6m mansion

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...sion-zmlj57t2c

public funds, given to a private someone to order goods to be purchased from them - from the public purse...so they can rake in millions in profit during a health crisis....remember when it was considered taboo to profit from the suffering of others - Vultures - well not any more...because the System Loves Greedy Bastads...as it would, it's run by them !


https://i.imgur.com/UVKRlfb.gif

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Good news for holidaymakers not really looking forward to a caravan park in Knott End, Turkey will allow UK citizens in without a vax certificate or negative test proof. One drawback is, it's a bloody long walk, I've yet to see an airline saying they'll fly you there without your papers.

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can always pop over to the lakes - Sinkov :D

as for flying Turkey....try Turkish airlines - otherwise, a valid passport and "maybe" one of those pointless tests.

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Yorkshire, Northumberland and North Norfolk for me this year Norder, when the fruitcakes finally stop wetting their knickers and let us back out again.

Right at this moment I might not go for my second jab, I'm not worried about blood clots at all, I'm a Pfizer man anyway, I just don't see the point. I had my jab two months ago, but I still can't go out, I can do nowt except go food shopping. The vaccine was supposed to set us free, but yet again they're lying, no eating out until May and we're still under restrictions until June. So what's the point of another jab if I can't go anywhere ?

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Yorkshire, Northumberland and North Norfolk for me this year Norder, when the fruitcakes finally stop wetting their knickers and let us back out again.

Right at this moment I might not go for my second jab, I'm not worried about blood clots at all, I'm a Pfizer man anyway, I just don't see the point. I had my jab two months ago, but I still can't go out, I can do nowt except go food shopping. The vaccine was supposed to set us free, but yet again they're lying, no eating out until May and we're still under restrictions until June. So what's the point of another jab if I can't go anywhere ?

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...I guess the cruise is off then - Sinkov - that so ?

we'd like to get over to FR - got good folk to keep an eye on things, thankfully...
Do they want to keep people trapped, force them into submission, until they can find enough excuses to make it mandatory ?... which if Doc Vanden Bossche is right...and the Jab - makes this thing - worse , it could go on and on....odd thing about them suspending the Asz , from what i've seen, has less adverse events reported than the Pfiz..bizzare...but no matter how much I despise this invasion, I get no joy from hearing of others suffering - ourselves. have a family member who's had bad Illness for many years... is quite amazing that she's still here, strong lady...on meds galore, but she's learnt how to balance them - then 3 weeks ago she had the jab, since then...she's in a mess, suffering badly...difficulty walking, pain, sores, tiredness and more...I dont know, sticking her already strained and fragile condition with an unknown - very dangerous, but she was advised so by her Doc....trusted him, now she's regretting it.
Waitrose ?... it a more relaxed shop than most - with a good variety, dont know if you like pizzas, but their Costa Mollica, for an off the shelf, Very nice, also about the only place around where I can get lemonade (their own) with Sugar, not sweetners !

talking of which....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEeaS6fuUoA

Cheers.

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Yorkshire, Northumberland and North Norfolk for me this year Norder, when the fruitcakes finally stop wetting their knickers and let us back out again.

Right at this moment I might not go for my second jab, I'm not worried about blood clots at all, I'm a Pfizer man anyway, I just don't see the point. I had my jab two months ago, but I still can't go out, I can do nowt except go food shopping. The vaccine was supposed to set us free, but yet again they're lying, no eating out until May and we're still under restrictions until June. So what's the point of another jab if I can't go anywhere ?

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The real point being Sinkov is that it gives you a better chance of surviving.

I myself have had the dreaded Covid the last two weeks and let me give you a snippet , you don’t want it under any circumstances.
It’s a horrible thing to some not all but I’ll be honest and say a week past Wednesday I thought I was going to hospital
It’s like flu to start with and then about 6-7 days in it really gets a hold of you —- so the vaccine doesn’t give you the free movement and life as normal Yet - but if your one that Covid shall we say doesn’t favour it gives you a better chance of surviving until we can go back to normal.

This thing is a silent killer - my wife like many was a non believer - until she’s had it ——- it completely wrecked both of us she see it differently now.

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Originally Posted by army88

The real point being Sinkov is that it gives you a better chance of surviving.

I myself have had the dreaded Covid the last two weeks and let me give you a snippet , you don’t want it under any circumstances.
It’s a horrible thing to some not all but I’ll be honest and say a week past Wednesday I thought I was going to hospital
It’s like flu to start with and then about 6-7 days in it really gets a hold of you —- so the vaccine doesn’t give you the free movement and life as normal Yet - but if your one that Covid shall we say doesn’t favour it gives you a better chance of surviving until we can go back to normal.

This thing is a silent killer - my wife like many was a non believer - until she’s had it ——- it completely wrecked both of us she see it differently now.

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Yes but surviving what army ? I've gone from last March through to having the jab in January, ten long months, without catching it, because I've been careful and taken sensible precautions and avoided contact with people, especially those with portable virus carriers wrapped around their faces. Having the jab was supposed to offer me enhanced protection so that life could get back to normality, but it hasn't happened, nothing has changed, I'm still locked down, I still don't meet anyone or go anywhere, so what is the jab protecting me from, I have no more chance of catching it now than I had pre-jab, and that's not because of the vaccine, so what's the point ?

"Waitrose ?... it a more relaxed shop than most - with a good variety, dont know if you like pizzas, but their Costa Mollica, for an off the shelf, Very nice, also about the only place around where I can get lemonade (their own) with Sugar, not sweetners !"

It's the highlight of my week this morning Norder, the weekly trip to Waitrose. I love a pizza, I'll have a look for that one and the lemonade, thanks for the tips. The cruise is still on, only problem is there aren't any yet, so it's looking like a plan for next year.

Funny thing about the blood clot panic, blood clots occur all the time, they are by no means uncommon. The incidence of them amongst recipients of the Astra jab, from the stats I'm seeing, appears to be lower than would normally be expected in the general population, which means there must be a case to be made for the jab actually offering some enhanced protection against blood clotting. N'est ce pas ?

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Originally Posted by sinkov

"Waitrose ?... it a more relaxed shop than most - with a good variety, dont know if you like pizzas, but their Costa Mollica, for an off the shelf, Very nice, also about the only place around where I can get lemonade (their own) with Sugar, not sweetners !"

It's the highlight of my week this morning Norder, the weekly trip to Waitrose. I love a pizza, I'll have a look for that one and the lemonade, thanks for the tips. The cruise is still on, only problem is there aren't any yet, so it's looking like a plan for next year.

Funny thing about the blood clot panic, blood clots occur all the time, they are by no means uncommon. The incidence of them amongst recipients of the Astra jab, from the stats I'm seeing, appears to be lower than would normally be expected in the general population, which means there must be a case to be made for the jab actually offering some enhanced protection against blood clotting. N'est ce pas ?

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You are the best exponent of twisting the narrative I have ever met sinkov. So what you are saying is the blood clots caused by the Astra Zeneca jab are really really reducing the amount of "normal" blood clots that kill about 100,000 to 300,000 deaths from blood clots occur each year, which is greater than the total number of people who lose their lives each year to AIDS, breast cancer, and motor vehicle crashes combined? 600,000 non-fatal cases of deadly blood clots occur each year, of which 40% are blood clots in the lungs and 60% are blood clots in the legs.

I need to buy shares in Astra Zeneca and quick!

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Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier

You are the best exponent of twisting the narrative I have ever met sinkov. So what you are saying is .......

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I don't do narratives BT, I just do the facts, and I'm not saying anything, just pointing out what the stats indicate.

Did you see the laughable ONS report yesterday, claiming Covid caused more deaths in England and Wales than any other disease in over a century ? Now there's a fine example of twisting a narrative, get your teeth into that one mon ami. >;)