O/T The meaningful vote.

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Originally Posted by animallittle3

Probably have 10 referendums exile and on the 11th remain will win and that result will stand .

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Animal i thought you could answer better than that.

One reason people are calling for a 2nd referendum is because they don't want to made poorer, but theres a hell of a lot more I'll leave Kinda to answer the question he was asked.

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Originally Posted by upthecolliers

Animal i thought you could answer better than that.

One reason people are calling for a 2nd referendum is because they don't want to made poorer, but theres a hell of a lot more I'll leave Kinda to answer the question he was asked.

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What question was he asked Mr C?

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Originally Posted by Exiletyke

The same reason that they thought they would win the 2017 GE with a landslide

& BTW we aren't talking about the Labour party

Congratulations you obviously took your time in composing your post
Not one spelling error or even a coffee stain
Banged it out fairly quickly over a cup of coffee ....yeah right

You tell porkies Kerr you were on line for an hour

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A nice cup of black decaf.

Nope. You still haven’t addressed why the group of Europhilic ‘grandees’ who you believe to be in control of the Eurosceptic Tory Party allowed the2016 referendum to take place. Even if they believed that Remain would win, why would they take the risk? What would be the value or purpose in doing so? It’s your conspiracy theory; the least you could do is think it through.

As for us not talking about Labour, have you been following the thread? They are mentioned throughout, with animal even threatening to withdraw his support for them in light of their moves towards supporting a further referendum (even though the most ardent Remainer in the shadow cabinet is Keir Starmer – who he wanted to replace Corbett a couple of weeks ago…).

And if changing the subject is an issue, why did you raise Tommy Robinson? You still haven’t explained where he comes into things…

The fact is that May tried to deliver Brexit for you, but an unholy alliance of the Tory right and Labour blocked it (albeit for different purposes). As a Labour supporter, you have to get on and own it.

It’s a bit weird that you apparently know how long I was logged on for this morning. That is seriously stalky. I’m going to post on a couple of other threads now and then not log out as per usual, so there is little value in getting your stop watch out.

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Originally Posted by Exiletyke

I reckon I agree with most of that KS but the thing that puzzles me is what would we do if the vote [if there ever was one] turned out similarly to the last one, although polls suggest the leave majority would increase, in any event the issues before us would still be the same, so how do you then proceed

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It was you whom asked the question and Animal gave a answer but i think you knew that. But 10 referendums is not a answer i asociate with Animal in conversation he usually puts better facts down than that.


I'll ask you a question "what will you gain by leaving the E.U."

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Originally Posted by upthecolliers

It was you whom asked the question and Animal gave a answer but i think you knew that. But 10 referendums is not a answer i asociate with Animal in conversation he usually puts better facts down than that.


I'll ask you a question "what will you gain by leaving the E.U."

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How about
Taking control of our borders [allow those who we want to come in a la Australia]
Taking control of our money
Taking control of our fishing
Taking control of our laws

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Originally Posted by KerrAvon

A nice cup of black decaf.

Nope. You still haven’t addressed why the group of Europhilic ‘grandees’ who you believe to be in control of the Eurosceptic Tory Party allowed the2016 referendum to take place. Even if they believed that Remain would win, why would they take the risk? What would be the value or purpose in doing so? It’s your conspiracy theory; the least you could do is think it through.

As for us not talking about Labour, have you been following the thread? They are mentioned throughout, with animal even threatening to withdraw his support for them in light of their moves towards supporting a further referendum (even though the most ardent Remainer in the shadow cabinet is Keir Starmer – who he wanted to replace Corbett a couple of weeks ago…).

And if changing the subject is an issue, why did you raise Tommy Robinson? You still haven’t explained where he comes into things…

The fact is that May tried to deliver Brexit for you, but an unholy alliance of the Tory right and Labour blocked it (albeit for different purposes). As a Labour supporter, you have to get on and own it.

It’s a bit weird that you apparently know how long I was logged on for this morning. That is seriously stalky. I’m going to post on a couple of other threads now and then not log out as per usual, so there is little value in getting your stop watch out.

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Well stop telling porkies then

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Originally Posted by upthecolliers

It was you whom asked the question and Animal gave a answer but i think you knew that. But 10 referendums is not a answer i asociate with Animal in conversation he usually puts better facts down than that.


I'll ask you a question "what will you gain by leaving the E.U."

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Not becoming part of a federal europe , under one flag , one anthem , army and governed by people who seem to have zero respect for democracy .

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Originally Posted by animallittle3

Not becoming part of a federal europe , under one flag , one anthem , army and governed by people who seem to have zero respect for democracy .

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Agree except regarding anthem I think I would prefer almost anything in place of our National dirge
Cwm Rhondda [Bread Of Heaven] & Flower of Scotland are far more inspiring

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Originally Posted by Exiletyke

How about
Taking control of our borders [allow those who we want to come in a la Australia]
Taking control of our money
Taking control of our fishing
Taking control of our laws

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Since when was we never in control.

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Originally Posted by upthecolliers

Since when was we never in control.

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Since Major signed the Maastricht Treaty in 1992 and Brown the Lisbon Treaty in 2007 colliers .