o/t do people really believe there is a right and left in politics, today?

It's particularly amusing to see the tories frantically trying to sell neoliberal capitalism to the majority of the country who don't have any capital , mainly because of neoliberal capitalism .

Throw in the brexit debacle , state of the economy and inflation and they are staring down the barrel .

Everything they stand by and created is now blowing up spectacularly and headed by the weakest and most incompetent PM in modern history , the monkeys behind her are even worse and totally divided .

Everything they now touch turns to shyte , they can't fix it because to do so goes against everything they believe in .

Their offering a few scraps of course and no doubt good old reliable Michael Fallon will be sent out to bat on Sunday Mornings as the last rites of the government are getting prepared .

Once the DUP work out Brexit and the border with the republic is a bit of a real hot potato then they will fall .

We can all get back to the centre ground under Corbyn and try and rescue the sinking ship before it hits the bottom of the sea .

Except this time we will all really be in it together and not just a Cameronesque big fat lie where the least able to absorb austerity were tasked with doing so whilst the wealth gap has increased significantly these last 10 years .

The Labour government in waiting haven't all the answers by any means but they understand the problems , the party was built on those fundamentals .

Stands to sense they will be best placed to repair the damage .

They stand on the real centre ground , the centre ground the establishment led media and politicians told you didn't exist or could be elected on .

It took one man to come along at the right time for many people to get acquainted with the centre ground , the centre ground that supports them and not cheap imitations previously rolled out to them .

Left and right wing , nar never worked yet .

If you think Corbyn is in the centre ground you must be to the left of Stalin.

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If you think Corbyn is in the centre ground you must be to the left of Stalin.

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If you believe everything in The Sun you must be to the right of Tommy Robinson .

The centre ground have come towards Corbyn , these things happen every 40 years or so , there's a shift in popular beliefs , the last one was in 1979 and the birth of neoliberal capitalism headed by Reagan and Thatcher , that is now drawing to a close .

You call him what you want Fire , it doesn't matter because you can't stop the tide .

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If you believe everything in The Sun you must be to the right of Tommy Robinson .

The centre ground have come towards Corbyn , these things happen every 40 years or so , there's a shift in popular beliefs , the last one was in 1979 and the birth of neoliberal capitalism headed by Reagan and Thatcher , that is now drawing to a close .

You call him what you want Fire , it doesn't matter because you can't stop the tide .

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You know that GF is fast becoming a rabid fascist don't you animal?

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You know that GF is fast becoming a rabid fascist don't you animal?

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Give it a rest you sanctimonious plonker. You and your little bunch of socialist utopians are a right pain in the rrse. Talking of which where's the Bristol ******* speculator gone?

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Originally Posted by monty_rhodes

Give it a rest you sanctimonious plonker. You and your little bunch of socialist utopians are a right pain in the rrse. Talking of which where's the Bristol ******* speculator gone?

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:D woke up in stalker mode i see, you really should get more sleep old bean.

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If you believe everything in The Sun you must be to the right of Tommy Robinson .

The centre ground have come towards Corbyn , these things happen every 40 years or so , there's a shift in popular beliefs , the last one was in 1979 and the birth of neoliberal capitalism headed by Reagan and Thatcher , that is now drawing to a close .

You call him what you want Fire , it doesn't matter because you can't stop the tide .

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The centre ground stayed in the centre, just the parties who have moved left.

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Globalists versus nationalists is the real divide these days.

Not in the UK though as all the major parties are globalists.

And there's no-one on the right any more.

Tories are now New Labour Mk2, Lib Dems are left and Labour are far-left.

Even UKIP has moved to the centre ground recently.

It's not the parties who are running things anyway it's the Deep State; corporations, banks, civil servants, Common Purpose, NGOs, UN, EU, you saw them all come out for Remain in the referendum campaign, that was another good thing about that referendum, they revealed themselves.

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So you've completely redefined political left and right wing to suit your own agenda?!

Left and right wing is all about our priorities on economics and social policies, how we prioritise, generate and distribute money and services. It has nothing to do with globalism v nationalism. That's an entirely different debate.

Although for once I agree that the global and national corporations have too much say in our politics at home. But there's only one party that are in bed with them these days.

I haven't redefined anything, the left has been abandoned, May is a Statist with her major interest being social justice, she's not a Conservative and neither is Rudd or Hammond, neither was Cmeron or Major, they're globalist neocons.

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You're very active on here these days, IBS. I hope you're not drinking to excess?

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Please explain Monty