an honest question

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Originally Posted by TheOtherTerryMac

Let’s be realistic here Rafa has Lascalles, Ritchie, Merino and possibly Atsu who I would deem as Premiership quality. The rest of his squad are Championship or lower players

That squad needs a major overhaul to escape relegation. You can put any permutation you like into a starting 11 and it will fall way short of a competitive Premiership side

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he has more than that
he just isnt getting the best for them

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Originally Posted by HughieG

I agree that Rafa needs to try and shake things up, also for the sake of his own job. We haven't been smashed though, not even away at the @rse. Lack of luck plays a part, but so does playing Joselu. It's a bit of both and Rafa needs look himself in the mirror for me and ask himself whether it's worth playing Joselu ahead of Gayle and Manquillo ahead of Mbemba, things like that.

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when he started this weeknds game with the team he did i realised he hadnt a clue

gayle scored two on the trot gets dropped
perez comes in

mbemeba a better defending midfielder we dont have .plays him at left back

your spine needs to be the strongest
especially when you have the players they do in the middle

he needs to start putting round pegs in round wholes and then worry about the 2-3 positions he will have to fill with some one who doesnt usually play that roll
he needs to start playing a stable side
not changing it every week
everyone gets injuries
its how they deal with it

and most deal with it better than raffa

No way will we get an IMMEDIATE influx of players in january

Charnley is still the negotiator. might get one in by end of january

we always have to blame anyone but rafa
im sure wiyj his connections they would be talking to players already

didnt they gey 5-6 players in in a few weks when we went into the fizzy
when it was car and charnley

how many did we get in when it was rafa and charnley

we spent most or time chasing has been goalies

again mate, you do not know what has/had been agreed behind the scenes. If Rafa was told there would be no investment after promotion, do you think he would have stayed.
Its not about that anyway, 99% of Newcastle fans agree its not him to blame, 99% of Newcastle fans agree Mike Ashley is to blame, so i will put this back to you, given that a hefty majority of Newcastle fans trust Rafa and want him as manager, when will you accept that your belief is incorrect and stop with your relentless anti manager posts, The majority of your posts are directly or end up directly blaming the manager, how long will you continue until your arrogance stops and you think "hey maybe im wrong, how many fans disagree with me"

im not looking for an argument but you really must be in high double figures by now with threads/posts about Rafa being to blame and all of us are sick of it and you have killed this board.
I know a lad that got a lifetime ban for suggesting Jonny Rubber had a small dlck, yet you openly spew racist and anti gay remarks which are indeed against board rules, you refuse to admit you may be wrong and you create a hostile atmosphere, i dont believe that you support Newcastle and im convinced your on the wynd up , regardless of who you have met from this board.

I wont resort to calling you names or picking fun at your spelling mistakes like you have in the past,
just get the hint mate, give it a rest, try accepting that sometimes people can be wrong , even you.

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Originally Posted by TANYA_

again mate, you do not know what has/had been agreed behind the scenes. If Rafa was told there would be no investment after promotion, do you think he would have stayed.
Its not about that anyway, 99% of Newcastle fans agree its not him to blame, 99% of Newcastle fans agree Mike Ashley is to blame, so i will put this back to you, given that a hefty majority of Newcastle fans trust Rafa and want him as manager, when will you accept that your belief is incorrect and stop with your relentless anti manager posts, The majority of your posts are directly or end up directly blaming the manager, how long will you continue until your arrogance stops and you think "hey maybe im wrong, how many fans disagree with me"

im not looking for an argument but you really must be in high double figures by now with threads/posts about Rafa being to blame and all of us are sick of it and you have killed this board.
I know a lad that got a lifetime ban for suggesting Jonny Rubber had a small dlck, yet you openly spew racist and anti gay remarks which are indeed against board rules, you refuse to admit you may be wrong and you create a hostile atmosphere, i dont believe that you support Newcastle and im convinced your on the wynd up , regardless of who you have met from this board.

I wont resort to calling you names or picking fun at your spelling mistakes like you have in the past,
just get the hint mate, give it a rest, try accepting that sometimes people can be wrong , even you.

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i will stop when he delivers what everyone thinks he is capable of

if any manager was getting the results he is they would want him out

if you dont want to cause an argument why even mention the spelling etc etc
why even bring it into the debate
how can i be wrong
i say a manger with the worst record as a prem manger for the toon .the worst points tally of ANY manager in the football league in the last 8-9 games a manger buying ****e players ,a manager who doesnt look like he has the players on his side .

i merely use the facts he has recently with us .

you say how do i know what was not agreed behind the scenes .i dont but how do you
we all heard that ash said he could have all the money generated ,well quite clearly rafa didnt get enough deadwood out from players like mitro (who is on slightly les than the spuds forward )
how do we know how much money was generated

i blame a manager that anyone with an ounce of sense can see isnt performing
if you want to be blind to the results and the performances then so be it

but i can tell you the players and the club are currently going backwards under rafa

ps
its wind up
just check your spelling
didnt want to ,mention it like

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Originally Posted by pboromag

i will stop when he delivers what everyone thinks he is capable of

if any manager was getting the results he is they would want him out

if you dont want to cause an argument why even mention the spelling etc etc
why even bring it into the debate
how can i be wrong
i say a manger with the worst record as a prem manger for the toon .the worst points tally of ANY manager in the football league in the last 8-9 games a manger buying ****e players ,a manager who doesnt look like he has the players on his side .

i merely use the facts he has recently with us .

you say how do i know what was not agreed behind the scenes .i dont but how do you
we all heard that ash said he could have all the money generated ,well quite clearly rafa didnt get enough deadwood out from players like mitro (who is on slightly les than the spuds forward )
how do we know how much money was generated

i blame a manager that anyone with an ounce of sense can see isnt performing
if you want to be blind to the results and the performances then so be it

but i can tell you the players and the club are currently going backwards under rafa

ps
its wind up
just check your spelling
didnt want to ,mention it like

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you truly are ignorant, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT HAS GONE ON BEHIND THE SCENES!!!
am i getting through to you at all? Your STILL blaming the manager for not getting rid of the deadwood, you have even turned this into anti Rafa ffs, Can you tell me what bids came in for Mitro etc, just the ones you know for a fact. not your own "itk" speculation????
If you bought him for 12 million, wanted to sell for 12 million, but only received offers of 8 million would you sell?
think we should change your name to OTPBORO ( one trick pony )

how does the rest of this scenario go mate?

i suggest we we have had bad luck, you reply its Rafa's fault
i suggest we need new players, you reply its Rafa's fault
i suggest we need investment, you reply its Rafa's fault
i say Ive ran out of milk, you reply its Rafa's fault
Jimmy Hoffer hasnt been found , you reply its Rafa's fault
Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, you reply its Rafa's fault

basically everything is Rafa's fault isnt it, throw as many stats to back up your argument as you like OTP,
the people who support the club and have for many years can see what is going on and we can all see what your about,
keep fighting OTP, your ignorance/arrogance never ends does it ;D

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Originally Posted by tanya_

you truly are ignorant, you dont know what has gone on behind the scenes!!!
Am i getting through to you at all? Your still blaming the manager for not getting rid of the deadwood, you have even turned this into anti rafa ffs, can you tell me what bids came in for mitro etc, just the ones you know for a fact. Not your own "itk" speculation????
If you bought him for 12 million, wanted to sell for 12 million, but only received offers of 8 million would you sell?
Think we should change your name to otpboro ( one trick pony )

how does the rest of this scenario go mate?

I suggest we we have had bad luck, you reply its rafa's fault
i suggest we need new players, you reply its rafa's fault
i suggest we need investment, you reply its rafa's fault
i say ive ran out of milk, you reply its rafa's fault
jimmy hoffer hasnt been found , you reply its rafa's fault
saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction, you reply its rafa's fault

basically everything is rafa's fault isnt it, throw as many stats to back up your argument as you like otp,
the people who support the club and have for many years can see what is going on and we can all see what your about,
keep fighting otp, your ignorance/arrogance never ends does it ;d

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no you are ignorant for thinking your view is the way it is

in football you create your oen luck
rafa isnt
we do need new players .but rafa brought the wrong ones .he didnt adress the goal soring or left back position .he concentrated on a goalie
and wasted 12 mill on a winger he hardly plays
we do need investment
and i would say at the moment rafas poor form is making that investment unlikely

the truth is he is nt performing
the stats back that up
he is a very well apid failure

and numpties will go red in the face defending him
with no answers to why he is performing so poorly
he failed to keep us up
he only justvgot us promoted with a very expensive squad
he failed to get the right players in and the deadwood out
he got rid of carr at the wrong time
he has picked so many poor team selections lately its amaing
im sure even stavely can see he isnt as she expected

she certainly doesnt trust him enough to not demand a relegation clause
surely the great rafa wont take us down twice

he wont as he will run for the hills and his love for the toon will soon disapear
justlike the badge kissing mercenary he is

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Originally Posted by pboromag

he only justvgot us promoted with a very expensive squad

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What ??? We finished 9 points clear of third placed Reading.

Will you be saying Man City have ONLY JUST won the prem if they finish 9 points clear ?

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Originally Posted by Kal

What ??? We finished 9 points clear of third placed Reading.

Will you be saying Man City have ONLY JUST won the prem if they finish 9 points clear ?

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we did
and should have walked it
to win we relied on other results

how much did reading spend
and who was their manager

i expect city to finish well clear by 9 points
because the manager and the spend
which in my eyes is relevant
as was our piss poor finish with the manager and the spend
chris did it a lot easier and more entertaining with a lot less of a spend