Leave or remain

Leave for sure
Why anyone who doesn't live here has an opinion is beyond me

The only people who make from the current situation is big business

Open borders gives them access to cheap labour
And then they don't pay their taxes

Our kids have been forced to stay on longer at school when youth unemployment is down to less that 5 % open the borders to the cheap labour

Meanwhile have a points system for doctors etc

As for apprenticeships
Make sure every youth has the choice of two before we let any builders in etc

Force the big developers to invest in youth and retraining from their massive profits

I voted leave and it can’t come quick enough let’s get some quality New Zealand lamb back in the shops.

And curvy bananas

And the right to deport illegals

And criminals claiming to be gay who are down for deportation to their home countries

And our own laws
Not those from Brussels

Leave.

Just so we as a nation can begin to think for ourselves again.

My fear is that the current crop of politicians and parties aren't up to the job of taking advantage of the many opportu ities that lie outside the EU zone in the big wide world. They are feckless, spineless, career politician tools who care more about spin and how they look for the cameras while the real decisions are taken elsewhere by unelected shadows in Brussels. Too many rules and red tape.

You didn't see the Victorians reading 100s of pages of EU directives on the trading of parsnips or being afraid to be decisive and take chances for the greater good. They had balls as did many others in our history who helped make Britain great.

Lets not forget in 1945 many of these countries were lying in ruins, broken while we still stood. How the fk did things come to this less than 75 years later - being essentially an obedient outpost of the German Empire that we helped rebuild.

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Originally Posted by pboromag

Leave for sure
Why anyone who doesn't live here has an opinion is beyond me

The only people who make from the current situation is big business

Open borders gives them access to cheap labour
And then they don't pay their taxes

Our kids have been forced to stay on longer at school when youth unemployment is down to less that 5 % open the borders to the cheap labour

Meanwhile have a points system for doctors etc

As for apprenticeships
Make sure every youth has the choice of two before we let any builders in etc

Force the big developers to invest in youth and retraining from their massive profits

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Originally Posted by Cannylad

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lol you started it cannylad :D

anyway leave - if we change our mind the eu will stuff us if we stay taking our rebate off us and forcing us into the euro just for a start - anyone who says they won,t well ---
just look when cameroon went to them cap and hand to get some consessions to appease the dumb uk public and what did he get - nothing apart from that the eu and politicans just laughed at him they showed their true nature

Oh Dear....hook, line and sinker we English. Sold a pup and we still believe it and the propaganda they sprout.

The elite brits in the government won't need to worry about their tax evasion as the EU 2019 will have (but we won't):

"CFC reforms are set to become EU law, with all member states required to have anti-CFC tax evasion measures on their books from January 2019. Hard-line Brexiteers are desperate to get out of the EU by 2019, including those who have stood adamantly in opposition to the crackdown on tax evasion."

In bed with Rees-Mogg/Boris and the rest of the cronies.....I am sure we will flourish has a tax haven, cheap labour market...and as for jobs for brits ...kiss it goodbye.

If you believe it's about you....I smell the coffee :)

Hope I am proved wrong but the establishment has no interest in the masses. (IMHO)

"the establishment has no interest in the masses"

so are we talking about the EU ?

Obviously in the context I posted I mean our establishment:that has been proved to be so through the ages.

Look up EU workers rights etc and Tory policies on workers and unions! EU legislation on the environment etc etc etc......

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Originally Posted by Curian

Obviously in the context I posted I mean our establishment:that has been proved to be so through the ages.

Look up EU workers rights etc and Tory policies on workers and unions! EU legislation on the environment etc etc etc......

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apparently - all EU laws will be moved into uk law but having worked on the railways our rights were actually better than eu,s workers rights

so if jeremy got into power leaving would be no problem then ?