Sam allerdyce on Alan Brazil show

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Originally Posted by tinostongue

Could you explain to me what you mean by "in short order" you use it quite often, and I don't get what it means,sorry.

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In fairly quick time.

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

I agree in that respect.
Football has went haywire.
We had the opportunity at that time to take the bull by the horns and just about did that. But weirdly, when we failed to get that form grip, that was when the tish hit the fan. This is when football went from the local sugar daddy with the odd millions and the bottle to go cap in hand to banks, to oil barons who went for immediate smash and grab the lot.

We can't compete with those even now....not yet...until that mental money merry-go-round is played on an absolute level playing field.
We could likely spend a few hundred million and have a right go at something. The problem is....what something?

All we'd likely do is have a squad of mixed up players among overpaid mercenaries who literally don't give a flying fluke about the club or the fans, or anything outside of their own bank balance.

Ashley's not stupid. I believe he knows we can't compete against those who are basically allowed to take the pedestals. I believe he knows we're all playing for the scraps from those placements of the usual suspect clubs.

As for trying. I think all clubs are trying but it's against the potential of scraps to eat but paying handsomely for the privilege of feeding on those scraps.

We could be a million miles worse off.
I happen to have a lot more optimism this season for much better football at the very least.

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B0ll0x

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

It can be looked on as a massive negative of course but the longer term bigger picture could easily create a real time
disastrous negative for the future of a certain club, depending.

Going the extra mile to gain the spoils of something like the champions league sounds like a no brainer but failure to achieve it can create a spiral downwards, in short order.
However, if the extra mile was taken and champions league was achieved...this alone could be the cause and effect of a club taking a massive downward spiral due to everything being ramped up to all hell in terms of transfers and fees, plus wages going past the sensible post.

Add to that the expectation of the fans being ramped up and you could very well be on deadly ground, kind of thing.
Very few clubs seem to be able to keep up that stance and those clubs are stood out like a beacon for all to see.

We're all playing a game of Russian roulette. I say all.....I mean all those clubs that try to push way beyond their means.
West ham is classic example of a club pushing way beyond its means.

Many clubs try it and suffer the consequences where there's no immediate way back.

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And going the way Bolton did has worked out well for them has it?

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Originally Posted by malamoto

And going the way Bolton did has worked out well for them has it?

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How many years ago are you talking?

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

How many years ago are you talking?

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How about now...perfect example of doing the opposite of "aLeeds" which is what you quote to justify having no ambition.

Allerdyce wanted a defender and a midfielder to strengthen his squad

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Originally Posted by usedtobeshearer

How about now...perfect example of doing the opposite of "aLeeds" which is what you quote to justify having no ambition.

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Far and away the best question ever asked on this forum

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

How many years ago are you talking?

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You already answered that
"but the longer term bigger picture "

Talking of Bolton they have only 2 senior outfield players in their squad for the first game. I think the others have gohe on strike because they have not been paid.

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Originally Posted by Scott Kirkland

Talking of Bolton they have only 2 senior outfield players in their squad for the first game. I think the others have gohe on strike because they have not been paid.

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Bloody hell - that's not gone for anybody involved.

Couldn't they have gone under at the end of last season?