Had a glance at pravda

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Originally Posted by scottg

A long suffering core support once defiant now deflated and shrinking year on year.
Like many others I will hand over my season ticket money again this year hoping things change for the better without any sense of pride, belonging or real belief that it will.

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Pride and belonging.....something I've banged on about for a decade or so now.

Small things help the bigger things.

I honestly think playing in a tip dosent help the mindset at the club.....the park used to be an oasis within a tip.....not anymore.

I think when fans are let in.....doubt it will be next season.....the club are in for a shock.

The "zero interest" and apathy in the 40 to 60 age group is astonishing and I think a sizeable number are glad they are nowhere near Dens.

Pride and belonging......I like that.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Pride and belonging.....something I've banged on about for a decade or so now.

Small things help the bigger things.

I honestly think playing in a tip dosent help the mindset at the club.....the park used to be an oasis within a tip.....not anymore.

I think when fans are let in.....doubt it will be next season.....the club are in for a shock.

The "zero interest" and apathy in the 40 to 60 age group is astonishing and I think a sizeable number are glad they are nowhere near Dens.

Pride and belonging......I like that.

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Not being allowed in is just the perfect excuse to break the habit of turning up no matter what

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Originally Posted by hmac

Team selection is the least of it.

Sure it’s tough with Covid etc but come on, we’ve been sleepwalking this for a a few years. Failure to maximise impact of utds relegation, then helping them be promoted was criminal. I’ve been in the seat, and I took a lot of criticism, but frankly he just doesn’t know what he’s doing.

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I appreciate your comments hmac. I agree that John Nelms is not going to change. It is a concern and I had thought perhaps that McPake might be encouraged to step into the role. I know he is very much distrusted as a manager of the club but he does care about our club and perhaps if he stepped up to the challenge of speaking directly to the fans some good might come of it.

There does not appear to be anyone else who might liaise with the fan base. It is an important role and as has been amply demonstrated by the way there appears to be little effort to engage with the support. I don't know if there are arrangements for DSA. Perhaps someone could comment about that. Dee4Life struggles to be included.

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Originally Posted by BCram

I appreciate your comments hmac. I agree that John Nelms is not going to change. It is a concern and I had thought perhaps that McPake might be encouraged to step into the role. I know he is very much distrusted as a manager of the club but he does care about our club and perhaps if he stepped up to the challenge of speaking directly to the fans some good might come of it.

There does not appear to be anyone else who might liaise with the fan base. It is an important role and as has been amply demonstrated by the way there appears to be little effort to engage with the support. I don't know if there are arrangements for DSA. Perhaps someone could comment about that. Dee4Life struggles to be included.

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DSA is run by a Nelms puppet so anything he says will be right out of Nelms' mouth and not an honest transcript of any discussions.

Dee4Life is finished and Nelms has never been prepared to communicate with them since an incident involving one of the DFCSS board members that cost the club money and face.

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Originally Posted by hmac

Not being allowed in is just the perfect excuse to break the habit of turning up no matter what

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Here's where I am, will I walk Doon to my dad's on Tuesday to watch game, unlikely 30/70 ...and my dad's is warmer than Dens, better food and drink and nobody sitting next to you with a pie covered in tomato sauce.

If I want to gripe, snarl and moan at the tv for an hour I cud just watch channel 4 news.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Here's where I am, will I walk Doon to my dad's on Tuesday to watch game, unlikely 30/70 ...and my dad's is warmer than Dens, better food and drink and nobody sitting next to you with a pie covered in tomato sauce.

If I want to gripe, snarl and moan at the tv for an hour I cud just watch channel 4 news.

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The pie covered in tomato sauce is an aberration and is something that should not be allowed in any football ground.

Ban tomato sauce, it's just so wrong.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Here's where I am, will I walk Doon to my dad's on Tuesday to watch game, unlikely 30/70 ...and my dad's is warmer than Dens, better food and drink and nobody sitting next to you with a pie covered in tomato sauce.

If I want to gripe, snarl and moan at the tv for an hour I cud just watch channel 4 news.

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I'll watch the game on Tuesday out of some strange and misplaced loyalty. I won't get into it or excited about it, I won't celebrate our goals and I won't be too pi55ed off when ICT score. I'll do what I have for the last few games and sit there apathetic wishing it was all over. My wife will say 'and you bought a season ticket to watch that?' and I'll reply 'I won't be getting one next season', this time though I'll really mean it.

After the game I'll go on TDB and whinge for a bit then I'll go to bed. Win, lose or draw by the time I waken up on Wednesday I'll have forgotten all about it, the way most of the games from this season and last have been erased from my memory.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I'll watch the game on Tuesday out of some strange and misplaced loyalty. I won't get into it or excited about it, I won't celebrate our goals and I won't be too pi55ed off when ICT score. I'll do what I have for the last few games and sit there apathetic wishing it was all over. My wife will say 'and you bought a season ticket to watch that?' and I'll reply 'I won't be getting one next season', this time though I'll really mean it.

After the game I'll go on TDB and whinge for a bit then I'll go to bed. Win, lose or draw by the time I waken up on Wednesday I'll have forgotten all about it, the way most of the games from this season and last have been erased from my memory.

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Would you leave the house to watch it?

Yes. Should be a great game. Crowd bouncing to be back at a football match and an exciting new lineup with guys who can score goals. Also chance to welcome back lovable legend Neil McCann. What's not to like?

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Would you leave the house to watch it?

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I have a season ticket so would probably have dragged myself along.

If I didn't have a season ticket I doubt it.