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Like every manager he's dependent on the quality of his squad. Look at the superb football in our two Championship promotion seasons, when he had one of the best squads in the division. A world apart from recent seasons when, due to a lack of finance, he was landed with a squad of aging journeymen.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier
Again it shouldn't need saying, but it seems necessary to keep re-stating the bleedin obvious.
That’s twice now Bt once in 1978 and today. 👍😂Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier
If it's so bleeding obvious mon ami, how come Pope, Tarkowski & Wood are already gone with Brownhill, McNeil, Cornet & Collins all likely to end up at EPL clubs?Quote:
Originally Posted by sinkov
4-4-2 or nothing with the added toll of gegenpressing, does not work week in week out, season after season with elite footballers. No wonder the mard, spineless b@stards are all boarding "Do One Airlines"...B)
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Wood has already been declared a flop at Newcastle and would gladly sell him on for £6-7m.Brownhill will be found out also when he eventually and hopefully leaves.Mcneill will probably flourish with similar talented players around him.Cornet is a bit injury prone but great talent.Pope should be England no. 1 if and when he can playout better with his feet.Collins is the only one I consider a future PL star.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier
They are and have been mediocre by PL standards BT.Tarkowski was class but he went on a free.
As for the rest-mostly has beens or making up the numbers.We have NEVER fielded a full PL standard team so to keep that team in the PL for 6 seasons was a minor miracle-albeit with soul destroyting tactics.
Amazed how we qualified for Europe since "We have NEVER fielded a full PL standard team" CiB. Totally amazed! :oQuote:
Originally Posted by ClaretinBudapest
Even that team was not full of PL standard players.JBG?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier
Argueably that was probably our strongest team and year.It was downhill from then on.
Amazed how we won two promotions and qualified for Europe with a one trick pony manager, who knew nowt except 4-4-2 and gegenpressing. Maybe he just got lucky those three years. Maybe he got lucky every year we stayed in the PL. Wasn't it Napoleon who said he didn't want good generals, just lucky ones. Let's hope Vinny is just as lucky eh ?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier
Like every manager he's dependent on the quality of his squad. Nothing contentious there mon ami, nothing more bleedin obvious I would say. But not to you. Ah well.O:)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier
don’t think Sean was a bad manager Sinkov and I’ve posted many times how we owe him an awful lot at Burnley.Quote:
Originally Posted by sinkov
I would say though that his tactical nous imo didn’t improve from day one , his flexibility to introduce European - foreign players other than British cost us in the long run , because we kind of pigeon holed ourselves into a small pool of players available to us with a tiny amount to spend on them.
And his rigidity in shape ( also linked to
First point ) cost us may times under his tenure
It also frustrated a lot of opposing teams until the players got older and the luck ran out.
Trying to give a balanced view in that it seems there are players in Europe and other continents and young players available to us that we’re simply ignored before unless they were from a very specific pool . ( it can’t just be Vinny - he s only contacting one’s he has knowledge of )
I think the above cost Sean eventually, I mean he hinted he didn’t ask for cornet and in truth weghorst either other than he was 6ft 5 etc which he thought might work.
The man worked / achieved miracles at our club but the chairman decided to stop backing him and eventually it caught up with us the players got old together and it’s not like this hadn’t happened before at Burnley - the only difference this time is we seem to be pro active manger and new young players from any continents as long as they can play the game.
We spunked around £12 million on Hendrick from Derby. Vinny has just brought in six players in one week and still has change from £12 million quid.Quote:
Originally Posted by sinkov
If Dyche had gone that way he would have had a proper squad and it was his reluctance to blood and play kids that cost us our hard earned academy status.
He paid around £12 million quid each for Brady & Vydra, God only knows what Vinny will do with another £24 million.
The dinosaur eventually became extinct, Dyche went the same way. Era over, roll on a new philosophy. ;D