Carers Of Dundee ad on TV

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I can't disagree more.

You said no 20 year old had hope of a job......I'll let you off with gross exaggeration.

This nostalgic ****e about AHH **** in it together in the early mid seventies grinds my gears a bit.

Thatcher raised expectation those who cud grabbed opportunity, those that couldn't struggled, those that cudnt be arsed.....meh.

I'll say again I saw little poverty despair or lack of hope thru my ****s and 20s, mixed with manual workers, professional and those going thru uni to better themselves

I honestly think they will be the best times I'll ever live thru

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Yer a betting man.
I'd wager the majority if not all of your acquaintances did not have a similar support for Maggie then,and yes most were working etc.Many apprenteships were lost due to cuts by councils late 80,s.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I can't disagree more.

You said no 20 year old had hope of a job......I'll let you off with gross exaggeration.

This nostalgic ****e about AHH **** in it together in the early mid seventies grinds my gears a bit.

Thatcher raised expectation those who cud grabbed opportunity, those that couldn't struggled, those that cudnt be arsed.....meh.

I'll say again I saw little poverty despair or lack of hope thru my ****s and 20s, mixed with manual workers, professional and those going thru uni to better themselves

I honestly think they will be the best times I'll ever live thru

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I'm allowed to exaggerate a bit.

Of course there were jobs, I had a few, but the ones I got were all dead end crappy ones - they even tried to get me back on YOP or whatever it was called at the time. Manufacturing was gubbed and I looked at other options, didn't work out for me but did for others. By the way the ones it worked out better for at the time never got the opportunities later on that I did.

I remember living in a two bedroom tenement in West March with my Mum, Dad, sister and three brothers - my sister had the small back bedroom to herself, mum and dad slept on a sofa bed in the living room and four of us were in the front bedroom in two double beds; most families in our street were in the same or a very similar boat. Most parents worked and they watched each others' kids to help each other out - all in it together type thing. That's not nostalgia, it's cold hard facts of life in the sixties / early seventies.

It was the late 1980s / early 1990s before I managed to get myself sorted after losing my apprenticeship in 1981, but I got there and agree the 1990s / 2000s were decent times. But let's not write off the hard times before then when ordinary working people did often find it hard but got through.

Edit to add - did you not find it strange that it took Thatcher being overthrown in 1990 for times to get a bit better?

Anyway, how do I claim carer's allowance?

Since 2000 to 2019 ,average wages have increased by around 25%,share dividends have increased by 132% in the same period ,employers not sharing the wealth is the problem these days

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Originally Posted by eric_sinclair

Yeah but the poll tax was a disaster,councils lost millions,the electrol roll went down by millions all over the country.
It is recognised by most as a shambles and rightly so.

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I'd have it back in a minute.

Fairest system.....if they had 100% rebate.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I'd have it back in a minute.

Fairest system.....if they had 100% rebate.

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a mixture of per person and property value would be the fairest imo

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I'd have it back in a minute.

Fairest system.....if they had 100% rebate.

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Mental system,billions went unpaid and the tax kept rising due to this.
Almost every council struggled.
Great times

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I'd have it back in a minute.

Fairest system.....if they had 100% rebate.

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Nobody will listen to you Rross. They are so biased that they can't see the important and crucial qualification you put in. IF THEY HAD 100% REBATE.
The system should have been set up to allow central government ie Westminster to make direct payments to councils based on their number of claimants for exemption or rebate because of their low or non existent income.
It would have supported councils and encouraged local welfare services to make sure everyone claimed the level of REBATE they were entitled to. It would also have supported local democracy by taking the then Scottish Office out of the equation. Where you lived would benefit directly without some per capita calculations having to be made.
Instead of discussion about how to improve the system we got civil disobedience and we are left with the problems caused by devolution.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

I'm allowed to exaggerate a bit.

Of course there were jobs, I had a few, but the ones I got were all dead end crappy ones - they even tried to get me back on YOP or whatever it was called at the time. Manufacturing was gubbed and I looked at other options, didn't work out for me but did for others. By the way the ones it worked out better for at the time never got the opportunities later on that I did.

I remember living in a two bedroom tenement in West March with my Mum, Dad, sister and three brothers - my sister had the small back bedroom to herself, mum and dad slept on a sofa bed in the living room and four of us were in the front bedroom in two double beds; most families in our street were in the same or a very similar boat. Most parents worked and they watched each others' kids to help each other out - all in it together type thing. That's not nostalgia, it's cold hard facts of life in the sixties / early seventies.

It was the late 1980s / early 1990s before I managed to get myself sorted after losing my apprenticeship in 1981, but I got there and agree the 1990s / 2000s were decent times. But let's not write off the hard times before then when ordinary working people did often find it hard but got through.

Edit to add - did you not find it strange that it took Thatcher being overthrown in 1990 for times to get a bit better?

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Thought the 80s were the dogs *******s, things have got Progressively worse since she left......97 onwards under Blair then devolution.......all downhill

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

Anyway, how do I claim carer's allowance?

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I have it.

You have to be a carer who cares 40 hours a week or more, earn less than £120 pw.