FGR did us more of a favour!

They are not wrong there Bob.

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Originally Posted by the_anticlough

to be fair Duzza, we'll never know for sure...
but, despite it clearly doing us a favour, there are some fans who can't get rid of that bad taste and I'm in that group with you : (

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Oh no durhampie is 100% sure, everyone knew, everything lol.

Any chance we can get him to sign a new contract...!!!!

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Originally Posted by Big Bob

IB taking stick from his fans in twitter

https://twitter.com/NottsCountyZone/...8HH2iByvw&s=19

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To be fair, it's not exactly a pile on is it. Two supporters effing and jeffing at him, and one supporting him.

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Originally Posted by cher1

To be fair, it's not exactly a pile on is it. Two supporters effing and jeffing at him, and one supporting him.

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To be fair they sounded like they shared the same brain cell between them...!!!

That's a very good point!

Incredibly harsh by Ruben for me. He wasn't exactly great in a Notts shirt until he worked under Burchnall. I actually remember Notts fans were questioning whether the owners, knew what they were doing regarding signings after Eli Sam and Ruben were poor under Ardley. Williams has no doubt taken the team to another level especially off the ball, but to make out IB didn't help his development is outrageous imo.

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Originally Posted by Kyle95

Incredibly harsh by Ruben for me. He wasn't exactly great in a Notts shirt until he worked under Burchnall. I actually remember Notts fans were questioning whether the owners, knew what they were doing regarding signings after Eli Sam and Ruben were poor under Ardley. Williams has no doubt taken the team to another level especially off the ball, but to make out IB didn't help his development is outrageous imo.

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To be fair I read it that Ruben believed IB had improved him as much as he could rather than not at all. You could read the comment in a way that hints he may do the same under LW or any other manager

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Originally Posted by bule1

To be fair I read it that Ruben believed IB had improved him as much as he could rather than not at all. You could read the comment in a way that hints he may do the same under LW or any other manager

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Me too. Glad I wasn't the only one.

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Originally Posted by Kyle95

Incredibly harsh by Ruben for me. He wasn't exactly great in a Notts shirt until he worked under Burchnall. I actually remember Notts fans were questioning whether the owners, knew what they were doing regarding signings after Eli Sam and Ruben were poor under Ardley. Williams has no doubt taken the team to another level especially off the ball, but to make out IB didn't help his development is outrageous imo.

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Not a good reading IMO, Kyle.
Ruben doesn't say he didn't help

I've been following Ruben's career at Notts closer than most... He WAS stunning under Ardley in those first few games - he showed in bursts that he was a clear cut above and could be the best player in the NL. It was there on film all the time. Fitness and defensive lapses caused Ardley to marginalise him. Instead of building up his fitness with game time he kept subbing or benching him, in favour of Doyle, O'Brien, Reeves etc.

Burchnall and Ross kept him out for their first 6 or 7 games too. You could argue they only brought him back to some popular demand, but more to do with the fact they were losing almost every game playing those above plus Knowles and Knight. It was a joke. Our season only got moving the first game Ruben finally got back and he drove us back into the play-off picture.

The fact that some fans were following some of the media guys in writing RR off reflects on their poor judgement only.

I think it's pretty much consensus on here that NA mismanaged RR's talents.
As for IB, he prefers LW! My guess is that LW isn't so much of a control freak, would never say nonsense like take only 8 practice free-kicks only and insist on going thru his training schedules to the last letter. Having said all that, Ruben didn't say Burchnall didn't help and I can't see anything wrong he said in that interview.