Keir Starmer

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Originally Posted by Red Zone

Will win the next election and will be PM late next year. Anyone who doesn't think he will be a huge improvement on the current Tory Government is delusional

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Of course a Labour Government would be a "huge improvement " but that's relative.
Bliar's Labour Government was a huge improvement on what went before but Jaysus.......what a missed chance.

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Originally Posted by Red Zone

Labour will be a long way from perfect but they will not be remotely as bad as the last number of years have been

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Do you want a bet?

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Originally Posted by Jupiter

Do you want a bet?

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I'll take that bet. Any day, with any leader.

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Originally Posted by Donanddusted

Sir Keir Starmer’s speech pledging to smash the “class ceiling”

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Whilst I don't agree with the honours system, being knighted does not automatically make you some uber right wing elitist c**t. Plenty of working class people receive one based on achievements, not background. Kier Starmer - son of a nurse and a tool maker, worked hard, did good.

Honours system should be scrapped, but I don't have a problem with people being recognised for good work.

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Originally Posted by Red Zone

You're just on the wind up. I'm not saying he will be brilliant but you won't have five years of

Johnson/Truss as PM
Patel/Braverman as Foreign Secretary
Rabb as a Bullying Minister
Rees Mogg/Dorries as cabinet ministers
Cronyism via COVID funds syphoned to friends and family
Tax breaks for the rich only
Rule breaking because rules don't apply to them
Attempted flights to Rwanda

I could go on and on and on but I'm bored now.

Labour will be a long way from perfect but they will not be remotely as bad as the last number of years have been

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Jason Brown was a better keeper than Bertrand Bossu. AFC were still shyte regardless

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Originally Posted by WhenTattieFlooredChas

Kier Starmer - son of a nurse and a tool maker,.

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Really? You think he’d make more of that. Maybe mention it in a speech or something

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Originally Posted by Mason89

Jason Brown was a better keeper than Bertrand Bossu. AFC were still shyte regardless

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I'd probably rank them more Langfield/Bossu

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Originally Posted by Jupiter

Do you want a bet?

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I fancy we may have different definitions of "good" and "bad" when it comes to socio-economic and socio-political societal models.
I'm fond of fair and equitable taxation, direct taxation, with investment in key public services and regulation of "the markets".

I'd guess you're fond of reactionary, populist tabloid headlines?

Or a meringue?

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Originally Posted by Mason89

Really? You think he’d make more of that. Maybe mention it in a speech or something

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Yes true, but doesn't change the fact that because someone receives an honour for their achievements it doesn't make them an elitist c**t.

He’ll undoubtedly win, but virtually solely by default, as he’s a truly awful performer as a politician, politics aside. Not as bad as the likes of Kezia Dugdale, though not too far off. His “pre-politics career” appears to be questionable too.