Originally Posted by
swaledale
RA I've already explained in many previous posts that what we are talking about is risk! Teachers doing their jobs would be no more and arguably less at risk than a number of other workers, the evidence shows that children aren't major sources of infection - there are currently thousands of workers out there who are in contact with hundreds of different people from all over the place on a daily basis, often not being fully able to social distance, a teacher is going to have contact with the same children from the same place on a daily is well able to social distance, indeed has more control than a health worker, a care worker a transport worker or a shop worker. NHS and care workers wear full PPE because they are repeatedly exposed to people infected with the virus, thats not going to be the case with a teacher!
On public transport, where your in close proximity to other people say on the tube, then masks may be appropriate, but it seems its more for confidence than for actual protection, I've explained above the usefulness of masks - one does have to differentiate between actions where its done as its seen to be a good thing and what in reality actually makes a difference!
Again you seem to have missed the bit where as long as you dont touch your mouth nose or eyes then the virus can't access your body and you can't be infected. Gloves are counter productive for ordinary use, a surgeon throws his PPE away or it goes into a bag untouched by him or her to be sterilised. You have to take your gloves off with your hands, wash them immediately, ensuring they don't touch any other surface in your house. Its simpler and less risky to just wash your hands as soon as you get inside or regularly when you are out. That is all thats required to keep you safe. A mask is some use, but according to most experts, it protects other from your spit etc., rather than protecting you, though it does mean you can't touch your mouth or nose accidentally.
You do not seem to be able to understand the concept of risk and you seem to have this idea that the virus is lurking all over the place wherever you touch. Yet its lifespan is limited even assuming that someone infected had touched a surface. Literally just washing ones hand regularly is the best protection.
I'm not being obstructive over teacher/pupil safety, I've explained repeatedly that the risks are low, we seem to be getting very uptight about this risk when we ignore others, though it seems you don't class them as serious risks! Which exactly makes my point, people seem to worry about risks that aren't that likely to happen to them, and worry about risks that are much more unlikely to happen and if they do not have a devastating effect on them.
Nor am I saying that appropriate measures shouldn't be put in place - lets see what Denmark is doing, that seems to be working well.
The Government has done a good job of scaring people ****less, again if people weren't being paid not to work, then they would be out and about pretty damn quickly!
I'm not having a go at teachers, thats just the example we are using, after all countless other workers are just returning to work and getting on with it albeit with appropriate measures in place to protect as far as possible.