Maynard out?

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Originally Posted by the_anticlough

The atmosphere against MK was different gravy. It wasn't the Meadow Lane we know. Hating Crowley was fun.

How can we get that level of passion more often, cos it really adds to the match day experience.
Sad to say, we probably have to go up a league or two to build some proper rivalries

Another point is the media training and everyone playing it so safe all the time. Managers only praise other teams, nobody ever says anything controversial to avoid winding up the opposition.

Example, if Maynard says he hates Karl Robinson, Salford are a bunch of time-wasting cheats and Robinson hits back, the atmosphere in the play-off games would be turned up 10 notches on the dial. But they won't. I guess there's still the danger of fans kicking the sh** out of each other. So it's back to a society-thing, we deserve the library, morgue-type atmospheres we get because we're too dumb collectively to just enjoy sports without overstepping into actual violence.

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It’s pretty clear that a passionate, up-for-it crowd will have an effect on the players of both sides - some will thrive on it, others will shrink away from it. What’s also pretty clear is that being in a vibrant stadium is a lot more fun than sitting in library-esque silence. A good match day atmosphere adds to the fun and also makes it more a more enticing experience for neutrals - it’s like a gig where lots of people are jumping around and singing along, rather than merely applauding politely between songs.

Maybe having the safe standing section will help next season?

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Originally Posted by Old_pie

Sat 12 Mar 1955 YORK CITY L 0-1 47,310

I suppose 45,000 York fans must have travelled down.

If I went through it carefully I could list many games where we had large crowds against opposition we were not expected to lose against but did.

My impression is that we've lost a disproportionately high number of high attendance games against teams we were expected to beat.

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I wasn?t talking about large attendance, I was talking about a positive atmosphere.

I?m baffled that some can?t see a positive correlation of a decent sized and positive crowd and the impact on performance. Of course it doesn?t mean it?s guaranteed points if a crowd is partisan and supportive but there are far more examples of these teams having success versus not. Of course the team has to be be capable too, which I think is the bit that some aren?t getting.
This season the teams with big home support and no underlying issues have had successful home seasons?.Liverpool, Leeds, Brum and Bradford.
Durham used an away example and a team that was roundly booed off on more than a few occasions as we got relegated.
Support is important, but there are multiple pieces to the puzzle that need to be in good order for success.

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

I wasn?t talking about large attendance, I was talking about a positive atmosphere.

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Must have been like being in a morgue or library down there. Or were they all standing on their hands?

Yes I thought so, 46,000 York supporters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZfgrb38jA

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Originally Posted by the_anticlough

The atmosphere against MK was different gravy. It wasn't the Meadow Lane we know. Hating Crowley was fun.

How can we get that level of passion more often, cos it really adds to the match day experience.
Sad to say, we probably have to go up a league or two to build some proper rivalries

Another point is the media training and everyone playing it so safe all the time. Managers only praise other teams, nobody ever says anything controversial to avoid winding up the opposition.

Example, if Maynard says he hates Karl Robinson, Salford are a bunch of time-wasting cheats and Robinson hits back, the atmosphere in the play-off games would be turned up 10 notches on the dial. But they won't. I guess there's still the danger of fans kicking the sh** out of each other. So it's back to a society-thing, we deserve the library, morgue-type atmospheres we get because we're too dumb collectively to just enjoy sports without overstepping into actual violence.

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I found the MK atmosphere quite frustrating. How people can get up for hating on a bloke who only played for us for 18 months more than they do supporting their team under *normal* circumstances mystifies me. Just shows the spirit is there if not always the willingness.

I dont think Maynard has it in him to wind up or hate anyone, though I like the idea of Salford fans having a scrap. Maybe they could get Roy Keane to give em a hand.

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Originally Posted by Old_pie

Must have been like being in a morgue or library down there. Or were they all standing on their hands?

Yes I thought so, 46,000 York supporters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZfgrb38jA

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I tried to find me sen and me rattle in the crowd with no success. I can remember feeling devastated afterward though, what a crowd unbelievable seeing it nowadays. They worry about a tight concourse 🙈

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Originally Posted by since41

I tried to find me sen and me rattle in the crowd with no success. I can remember feeling devastated afterward though, what a crowd unbelievable seeing it nowadays. They worry about a tight concourse ��

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My old snooker pal, played and had a goal disallowed in that game.

If we managed to go up, I wonder how many teams have achieved promotion with so many points dropped at home?

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Originally Posted by Old_pie

Must have been like being in a morgue or library down there. Or were they all standing on their hands?

Yes I thought so, 46,000 York supporters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZfgrb38jA

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Have you ever considered that on that particular day the score would have finished 4-0 to York without the vocal passionate support, perhaps the fans had a massively positive impact on the game, but it still wasn't enough. No one can know.

The point isn't that if the home support is the most vociferous in the football league then Notts will automatically win every single game. That would be ridiculous. The point is that more often than not it will help.
As mentioned in a different thread - against Cheltenham both McGoldrick and Traore gestured asking for more vocal support from the fans (and didn't get it). The players obviously want a louder support, so one must assume they think it will help, or they wouldn't be trying to get us up!

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Originally Posted by BigFatPie

I found the MK atmosphere quite frustrating. How people can get up for hating on a bloke who only played for us for 18 months more than they do supporting their team under *normal* circumstances mystifies me. Just shows the spirit is there if not always the willingness.

I dont think Maynard has it in him to wind up or hate anyone, though I like the idea of Salford fans having a scrap. Maybe they could get Roy Keane to give em a hand.

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I concur.

I also find it embarrassing that as a collective home support we can be quite passive untill it comes to criticising the referee.
The most energetic fan chant against Cheltenham was 'We always get **** refs' . Doesn't do us as Notts fans any credit.

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Originally Posted by since41

I tried to find me sen and me rattle in the crowd with no success. I can remember feeling devastated afterward though, what a crowd unbelievable seeing it nowadays. They worry about a tight concourse 🙈

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But did you and those around you try to gee our team on or did you stand quietly moaning and let York win?