Election Year or Fear!

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

It was their illegal occupation, the ever wider spread of settlements, the killing of Palestinians by settlers to steal their land, the burning of olive groves going unpunished etc etc etc that led to Hamas and Hezbollah starting up.

Israel can only blame themselves.

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If only it was that simple to write out.
You missed off the PLO who were intent on removing Israel from 1954
The two state solution has been rejected many times by all the terror groups you mention, who have no interest in peaceful co existence and for them, only the obliteration of the Israeli state will do. Gaza was evacuated of Israeli citizena and removed settlers in 2005, To let them run themselves. They voted HAMAS in, who removed all democracy and used the finances to purchase weapons. Rockets upon rockets launched to provke Israel.

So when you say blame themselves, it is hardly that simple is it? It takes two to tango

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Originally Posted by swaledale

She was completely ignorant on the subject of immigration. like so many are, including our "red friend", mind you ignorance one can understand, its the stupidity of some, mentioning no names that is so sad. Especially when they display this stupidity proudly on the internet, parroting stuff they ahve read or heard on the internet without any reference to reality or facts.

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Hide your disdain all you want swale with less colourful metaphores, you are still parroting the same narrative.
IF YOU CRITICISE OR QUESTION ANYTHING IMMIGRATION WISE, you are a bigot/racist/little Englander/Gammon/Nazi etc. It really is pathetic.

Brown was lying about immigration as much as his mentor was.
Here's the script from that encounter and in no way was that woman a bigot.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...10/8649448.stm

Her point was valid, as under Labour from 2000, immigration , started to rocket.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...euk/2016-12-01

The Tories took it to whole new level, though Swale thinks this is a good thing. Our population is now more than France yet being 2.3 times smaller.
It feels wonderful on our choked roads and being worse off.

***Anecdote alert***Funny (maybe not the right word) thing about the last two conversations I've been part of, last night in a pub, this morning in a local cafe, and both open to all and populated by a mixture of folk, and the conversation turned at both gatherings to Trump. General consensus is no longer that he's (just) a loose cannon, or (just) a sleaze (allegedly), many who offered an opinion agreed with a number of his policy announcements and wished there was the same degree of decisiveness and direction in UK***/Anecdote alert*** Maybe the Donald is angling for a Nobel prize?

... on a lighter note, here's someone's suggestion on possible Danish retaliation.

https://denmarkification.com/

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

... on a lighter note, here's someone's suggestion on possible Danish retaliation.

https://denmarkification.com/

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Do you think we could sell someone Yarkshire…or better still Ess@x and Clacton?

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Originally Posted by MadAmster

... on a lighter note, here's someone's suggestion on possible Danish retaliation.

https://denmarkification.com/

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Yes I saw that, good for the Danes !

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Do you think we could sell someone Yarkshire…or better still Ess@x and Clacton?

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You're getting as "deal" savvy as Fartman. Trying to sell Clacton twice. Sell Ess@x, which includes Clacton and then sell Clacton again but this time as a separate entity and hope you cash the cheque before the buyer realises you've sold him something you don't own :)

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Do you think we could sell someone Yarkshire…or better still Ess@x and Clacton?

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One thing for sure, you couldn't sell the area surrounding Manchester to anyone as noone would bid 😃

So Rachel Reeves, from her own mouth, bragged about her 'best part of a decade' at the Bank Of England, yet the facts show she worked there for just over four. Given our collective and individual disdain for politicians who lie and are not competent in their role, can we all decide whether she should resign because she's a liar or because she can't count?