O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

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Originally Posted by Mud Pie

you say that glibly like they one monster, a world 'government' golum with 'the media' quietly in its pocket.

I can't see France and the UK conspiring to set fishing hauls, never mind dupe the public on such a scale, never mind Turkey and Hungary and Venezuela all piling on and keeping mum. Can't see mail and mirror journalists all agreeing to a narrative, and agreeing to withhold inconvenient truths ... to help the 'governments' cover up the real reality.

But that doesn't mean I trust any of them, just that I also don't believe they could organize a p!ss up in a brewery!

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I would say that the media have gradually turned against lockdowns over the last year-ish with stories about the psychological damage, effects on child development, relationships etc. There's always been the odd story here and there raising concerns, but I sense the media collectively now generally consider lockdowns to be a mistake and would not be so supportive of a repeat, at least not for any length of time.

I expect the same thing will happen with the vaccines eventually but any journalist who breaks ranks at this stage knows they are likely to have their career destroyed and face abuse and ridicule as an anti-vaxxer.

Governments on the other hand are now agreeing to defer all powers to the WHO in a health emergency, which you could argue the logic for, but basically means unelected health officials denying fundamental human rights with the power to mandate vaccines, an organisation that declared Monkey Pox a global crisis only last year.

"Build back better"

Does anyone still think Boris Johnson is the right man to lead us?

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Originally Posted by upthemaggies

"Build back better"

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Shudder!

can't really agree that they're all singing from the same page, but I do like and learn a lot from reading your posts.

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Originally Posted by upthemaggies

Governments on the other hand are now agreeing to defer all powers to the WHO in a health emergency, which you could argue the logic for, but basically means unelected health officials denying fundamental human rights with the power to mandate vaccines

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Any evidence you could link to back up this fresh new ridiculous and obviously false claim?

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Originally Posted by Elite_Pie

Does anyone still think Boris Johnson is the right man to lead us?

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Nadine, Jacob ....... but the list is dwindling.

Don't forget that Boris got Brexit done for the UK. Or should that be got the UK done by Brexit?

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Originally Posted by Jampie

Any evidence you could link to back up this fresh new ridiculous and obviously false claim?

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https://appgpandemic.org/news/who-pandemic-treaty

Here is Dr David Martin addressing the European Parliment Premiered on 23 Jun 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaD8...nel=LondonReal

Didn't Boris say there will be no border in the Irish see , over his dead body !! well we have one and I'm still waiting for him to fulfil his promise !!!!!

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Originally Posted by upthemaggies

https://appgpandemic.org/news/who-pandemic-treaty

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https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk...ings/cbp-9550/ is a good overview of what is actually going on.

The ask is quite big, but it'll invariably be completely neutered in negotiation.

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Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66

Didn't Boris say there will be no border in the Irish see , over his dead body !! well we have one and I'm still waiting for him to fulfil his promise !!!!!

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Say? If his mouth was moving with noises coming out, then he was lying. Give up the wait!

Putting a border down the Irish Sea was the key part of his 'oven-ready deal' and what separated him from May, who refused to split up the UK.

As soon as made the deal, he started to lie about it - at massive cost to our reputation