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Originally Posted by AucklandRover

Acido - Mahoney has great potential. I'm sure he'd have done better to stay at Rovers and play than sit on a bench, but agents are agents, and the lure of the higher Division is difficult to resist. He has good ball-control and fair pace. He can also see a pass. He should be an asset to you.
As for us, we haven't been able to match Wigan and Shrewsbury's consistency. We have done better against the better teams!
One difference is, we are still settling in lots of new players.
I will be content with the play-offs, but we have so many impatient supporters. I don't know if we are worse in this respect because of history. If so, that really doesn't make sense.

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Yo Aucks, the man from down under lol.
Im hoping he can build with us and even though its going to be a relegation struggle for us, its a question of does he want this challenge or does he want to sit on Bournemouth's comfy Premship bench and collect his wages etc. Know what I mean ?.
We like a decent winger and if hes got some form of the Premship or Champship then I reckon we could have made a good loan deal here.

As for those Lg One play offs wow I dont know what to say here, other than the fact that we won them a few seasons ago despite being bottom of the table in Nov/Dec. The play offs are amazing though arent they, but my advice is if your going to get to them.... make sure you win them!! lol

Saxo, I just don't believe this "financial disaster" stuff. I've heard it all before.
Venky's have shown no signs of walking away and we sometimes forget that their losses with Rovers are petty compared to their overall profits. (There's nearly always another rich mug willing to fill the breach, in any case).
If they were going to cut and run, I think it would have been last summer.
Anyway, none of that has anything to do with the happenings on the pitch.
Saying we have to go up because we have to go up isn't going to make us go up! Neither is playing Payne instead of Conway.

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Originally Posted by AucklandRover

Saxo, I just don't believe this "financial disaster" stuff. I've heard it all before.
Venky's have shown no signs of walking away and we sometimes forget that their losses with Rovers are petty compared to their overall profits. (There's nearly always another rich mug willing to fill the breach, in any case).
If they were going to cut and run, I think it would have been last summer.
Anyway, none of that has anything to do with the happenings on the pitch.
Saying we have to go up because we have to go up isn't going to make us go up! Neither is playing Payne instead of Conway.

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Aucks if we don't up, say goodbye to any decent asset the club has got, be it players like Dack, mulgrew, graham or others assets like brockhall, maybe even ewood park.

Our situation is dire, and for some reason, you choose to pretend(or not care) that its even happening. You are in a very small minority.

Most fans know its promotion or bust. THATS why the urgency.

The fact you'd settle for the play offs is ridiculous when you look at our squad compared to the rest of the league, and I'm sorry, but I can't take you serious at the moment. Your attitude is so cavalier to our club.

Ridiculous. What's your solution? Change manager now? Play all our attacking players at once? Oh no, that's no good - we have a poor defence! Play extra defenders? No - we need to attack, attack, attack!
Your reaction to one defeat is completely over the top.
If we win at the weekend and the other two leaders don't, there will be some fans talking as if the job's done again. It won't be. That's why over-reacting to every set-back is as misguided as counting your chickens. (No pun intended!)
By the way, how do I see that we have the best squad in the League just by looking at it? Besides, a good team is sometimes more than the sum of its parts, anyway. Putting the best XI players on the pitch doesn't necessarily create the most effective team.
Football is not simplistic. Those who say, "If we'd played Payne instead of Conway, everything would have been different" are simply p*ssing into the wind.
If success in football is as simple as the "experts" in the crowd make out, why do so many managers fail?
I'm not being cavalier, but jumping up and down, shouting "Sack the manager" is going to solve nothing.
We aren't gelling every week. Does that mean when we do, it's all because TM has said one thing, and when we don't, it's because he's said another?
And please tell me you don't believe that Conway is so terrible, the other ten who'd played so well a few days before couldn't cope with his presence and couldn't make up for his inadequacies.
As for the financial side, we were told that leaving the Championship meant ruin. It didn't. Clubs tend to survive, and - as Shrewsbury are showing - success isn't just about money.
Finally, to go back to the opening line, what's your magic solution, anyway?

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Originally Posted by Saxo1man41

Aucks if we don't up, say goodbye to any decent asset the club has got, be it players like Dack, mulgrew, graham or others assets like brockhall, maybe even ewood park.

Our situation is dire, and for some reason, you choose to pretend(or not care) that its even happening. You are in a very small minority.

Most fans know its promotion or bust. THATS why the urgency.

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Sorry Aucks,but I tend to agree with Saxo on this one..
One of your more sensible posts Saxo and I'm inclined to agree with you on this one.. It really will be dire straits if you don't go up this season..

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Originally Posted by AucklandRover

Ridiculous. What's your solution? Change manager now? Play all our attacking players at once? Oh no, that's no good - we have a poor defence! Play extra defenders? No - we need to attack, attack, attack!
Your reaction to one defeat is completely over the top.
If we win at the weekend and the other two leaders don't, there will be some fans talking as if the job's done again. It won't be. That's why over-reacting to every set-back is as misguided as counting your chickens. (No pun intended!)
By the way, how do I see that we have the best squad in the League just by looking at it? Besides, a good team is sometimes more than the sum of its parts, anyway. Putting the best XI players on the pitch doesn't necessarily create the most effective team.
Football is not simplistic. Those who say, "If we'd played Payne instead of Conway, everything would have been different" are simply p*ssing into the wind.
If success in football is as simple as the "experts" in the crowd make out, why do so many managers fail?
I'm not being cavalier, but jumping up and down, shouting "Sack the manager" is going to solve nothing.
We aren't gelling every week. Does that mean when we do, it's all because TM has said one thing, and when we don't, it's because he's said another?
And please tell me you don't believe that Conway is so terrible, the other ten who'd played so well a few days before couldn't cope with his presence and couldn't make up for his inadequacies.
As for the financial side, we were told that leaving the Championship meant ruin. It didn't. Clubs tend to survive, and - as Shrewsbury are showing - success isn't just about money.
Finally, to go back to the opening line, what's your magic solution, anyway?

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What's the solution? Panic. Yes, its too late to fire mowbray, and having brought his Coventry mates into the board room, would be too much upheaval to change things round now.

Sack Mowbray. I had to read that a few times. That's the last thing I can read on here. It was enjoy able until you came back, and starting bring with you the Burnley fans who talk almost as ****e as you do .........that's the funniest and most pathetic thing I've ever actually heard. From anyone. Sack Mowbray.
Aucks & Robin, are you guys on Facebook? I'd like to keep in touch for the rest of this season. Robin I'll message you privately about meeting up at MK Dons. Good luck talking to talk to someone who can't listen and wants a reaction.

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Originally Posted by Acido

Hey up Sax, we brought him on today too late as it turned out, I think most of us think he should have started and had a go at them out on the wing right from the first minute, or at least for the whole of the second half anyway.
I got the impression its not worked out for him down at Bournemouth and if he does ok for us and if we stay up of course, Im wondering if it will be a loan deal 'with a view to a permanant' deal etc ?.

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Acido, Problem could be his aspirational valuation. Now Bournemouth are no Man City, but his fee and more especially salary could/would be out of your reach. In any event, I’m none too sure if his ego (if that’s what Sax is inferring) would allow him to ‘eat humble pie’ . Please don’t take that as a snide towards your side , it’s in ref to him ‘abandoning’ his Prem journey.

Panic !!!???

I can see our boardroom now with Messrs; Corporal Jones, Private Fraser and Team Scooby Do as advisors!

Seriously though, yes quite right IF we failed to achieve promtion this year would it be less than good news ? For sure, it doesn't take rocket science.
However, do I ( or anyone on these pages) , know for sure what Venkys plans and next move are to be . I've personally not got a Scooby Do?

Therefore, let's just let fate pan itself out and what will be will be.
Is TM going to prove you wrong (see above) ?
Is TM going prove you right (again see above) ?
Do I support and wish him well in his quest ? For sure.