Olympiakos v Burnley

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Originally Posted by oldcolner

Thanks edra
Are things improving in Greece economically now for ordinary people, it seemed dire 10 years ago.

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BBC article suggests not

On Monday, Greece ends its third and final financial bailout programme, having received more than €300bn (£269bn; $342bn) over eight years.
The government and its European lenders are keen to paint the end of the last bailout as a good thing, having avoided a "Grexit" in which the country would have crashed out of the eurozone into unknown territory.
But for many Greeks - especially the young - the damage has already been done.

Greece's unemployment rate peaked at 27.5% in 2013 - but for those under 25, it was more than double that, at 58%.
Last year, more than four in every 10 young Greeks were still jobless.

Between 2008 and 2016 the country lost almost 4% of its citizens to emigration - more than 400,000 people. And while Greece didn't record the ages of those emigrating, the country is getting older.
The average (median) age has jumped by more than four years since 2008; and while those aged 20 to 39 used to make up 29% of the population, that's fallen to just 24%.



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45207092

Olympiakos have only played Europa League so far as their 30 game Superligue season starts next Sunday v Levadiakos.
They drew 0-0 with la Liga side Leganes (TM value £74.5m) in a pre season friendly and Swiss side Lucerne TM value £21m in round 3

"The government and its European lenders are keen to paint the end of the last bailout as a good thing, having avoided a "Grexit" in which the country would have crashed out of the eurozone into unknown territory.
But for many Greeks - especially the young - the damage has already been done.
Greece's unemployment rate peaked at 27.5% in 2013 - but for those under 25, it was more than double that, at 58%.
Last year, more than four in every 10 young Greeks were still jobless."

I like the way leaving the eurozone and reverting to their own currency is described as 'crashing out and into unknown territory', typical BBC. Look at the result of remaining in the eurozone, horrendous unemployment figures, that looks like the mother of all economic crashes to me. On the other hand, the UK, in that unknown territory outside the eurozone, has no unemployment problem, as near to full employment as you're going to get.

It's the same nonsense as describing leaving the EU without a deal as 'crashing out'. We just revert to WTO rules and trade with the EU on the same basis as virtually every other country in the world. Where's the crash ?

The way Merkel and her cronies crushed the Greek economy under their heels was one of the main factors in helping me making the decision to LEAVE.

Have any of you visited London lately? It does not look to me like an economic zone that is on one's uppers. :s

Yes but most people I meet seem to be tourists or immigrants. Maybe that’s what Londoners are? Will investigate this weekend.
Is Burnley on the up as a result of the PL?

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Originally Posted by sinkov

Hi Edra, I'm intrigued that you were deducted 2 points last season, what was that for ?

Also I wonder what your first impressions of your new coach are, I know the league hasn't started yet, but you got past Lucerne easily enough. Will your club and fans give him time, or will they be on his back if he's not instantly successful ? Our fans can be impatient enough, but I would think expectation levels at your club far exceed ours. I would think 3rd place in the league is simply not acceptable, would that be the case ?
One thing is for certain, neither our fans, coaches or players will be under-estimating Olympiakos, your record at the top level of European football speaks for itself, and under-estimating opponents is not something we ever do anyway, Sean Dyche insists every opponent is treated with the utmost respect, it's one of the reasons he's been so succesful. I wouldn't take too much notice of the TM values of the respective clubs, they're a nonsense, apart from OC, no one takes them seriously.
I do like the fact that your stadium is named in honour of a Greek national hero, someone who fought and died for Greek independence. Sadly it could never happen in my country now, there is not the same respect for our country's history, we're more likely to end up with a stadium named after the local supermarket.

Who should we be looking out for in your team, who's going to provide the biggest threat ?

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Sorry for answering so late but I was busy yesterday. Yes,last year we were deducted 2 points. It was due to an incident that happened after the match with last year's champions AEK. We were 1-0 at 85th minute and we managed to lose 1-2 with two late game goals.After the match 20-25 furious fans went into pitch. I think there was no beating and only swearing happened.
Now, about our new coach: Personally I really like him. He is hard-worker spending much time for the team. Also, although we are a really new team with almost 20 transfers, we've witnessed some really good performances and beautiful( for a greek team) football. I hope we will give him some time but i think it would be difficult. There is a bad thing when you have won 18 out of 20 last championships. Our fans are like coddled children. They give no time to anyone. The only coach they ve had respect of wes Ernesto Valderde who was here for 3-4 years. We 've fired many coaches due to bad results or non-attractive football. Zardim (current Monaco coach) was fired mid-season, without losing any match (I think in 15 matches he had 13 wins and 2 draws) because we were playing defencively. Also Marco Silva received hard criticism.

To end I would say that the 3 attacking midfielders we have (Lazaros, Fortounis and Podence ) are the biggest threats. Very good technique. Especially Fortounis have >10 assists and goals every year.

Vydra now in the squad for Thursday

We have Slovenian officials this time. Never heard of any of them
38-year-old Slovenian Slavko Vinči is in charge with assistant referees Tomaž Klančnik and Andraž Kovacic. Rade Obrenovic is fourth official.

Vincic has been on the UEFA list since 2010 season and refereed Spurs at home against Apoel Nicosia in the Champions League last December. He has refereed quite a number of European games.

Thanks super.
Club website says we can watch the game on Eleven Sports or in the fanzone. Free 7 day trial of TV channel

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/...lympiakos-tie/