Expected post match interview vs reality

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Originally Posted by pielover

What I expected/hoped to hear....

"It's been a tough week, we've been hit by injuries & stupid sending offs so I've had to dig deep into the squad & I honestly couldn't have asked for more. They've won two on the bounce, beat some decent teams on the way and although it may not have been pretty they've given their all for the shirt & I'm proud of every one of them So what if they've got a bit tired, they've been up and down the M1 and several haven't been playing regular football.... they've really given the more established players something to think about."

What I actually heard...


Maybe its me but I heard similar from him on Tuesday. Yea we did look tired but we battled, limited their chances and kept on trying to find the second. He has zero man management skills that bloke.

PS Yea I know I am moaning when we've just won but jeez the bloke bothers me. Well done the team!!

COYP

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Zero man management skills? How do you work that out? If he won the FA Cup, some would be whining.

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Originally Posted by ForeignLegion

Zero man management skills? How do you work that out? If he won the FA Cup, some would be whining.

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I think i get what he means, i watched the after match interview right as it happened , there was a problem with the sound so from the point where he was asked if thomas and wooton were his prefered partnership all i got was pictures, the body language and his face was awfully negative, if you didn't know better you'd have thought we'd lost the game, he rarely says anything too comlimentary about the players and often offsets a compliment with a negative comment directly after, i think this is why he winds some of us up so much, we just won, while the honesty is nice a bit of passion would go down well

There are times when he says things about his players that you just know can't have gone down well in the dressing room, for instance saying we need more players because the current crop aren't of enough quality, i know if i were sat there and my manager said that about me i'd be annoyed, even if it were true!

A lot of us thought he had a negative,defeated demeanor when we were not doing well its starting to look like that is just his character, we haven't really seen him while we are doing well and getting results, this might just be how he is win lose or draw, which if im going to take a positive out of it means he's not likely to flap or get flustered or over excited when it comes to crunch time.

Maybe many of us including me misread him because we only saw him while things were going badly, he wasn't so much defeated as level headed whatever the outcome.

It would be nice to see him a bit more upbeat, i like to see a manager compliment the opposition it shows class but a bit of umph when talking about our own chances doesn't hurt either.

Its good to see him doing better

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Originally Posted by bridpie78

I think i get what he means, i watched the after match interview right as it happened , there was a problem with the sound so from the point where he was asked if thomas and wooton were his prefered partnership all i got was pictures, the body language and his face was awfully negative, if you didn't know better you'd have thought we'd lost the game, he rarely says anything too comlimentary about the players and often offsets a compliment with a negative comment directly after, i think this is why he winds some of us up so much, we just won, while the honesty is nice a bit of passion would go down well

There are times when he says things about his players that you just know can't have gone down well in the dressing room, for instance saying we need more players because the current crop aren't of enough quality, i know if i were sat there and my manager said that about me i'd be annoyed, even if it were true!

A lot of us thought he had a negative,defeated demeanor when we were not doing well its starting to look like that is just his character, we haven't really seen him while we are doing well and getting results, this might just be how he is win lose or draw, which if im going to take a positive out of it means he's not likely to flap or get flustered or over excited when it comes to crunch time.

Maybe many of us including me misread him because we only saw him while things were going badly, he wasn't so much defeated as level headed whatever the outcome.

It would be nice to see him a bit more upbeat, i like to see a manager compliment the opposition it shows class but a bit of umph when talking about our own chances doesn't hurt either.

Its good to see him doing better

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TBH to the OP, the moment when Charlie asked him "surely this is your preferred strike partnership?" and NA looked confused and threw the question back, "is it?" was a bit weird.....NA then went on quickly to explain that returning strikers also looked hungry and he wanted all his strikers "on their toes"....yes, NA occasionally looks confused or negative, but the results show that we are improving rapidly as a team......3 points at Dover might see him as being more positive, let´s see

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Originally Posted by tarquinbeech

TBH to the OP, the moment when Charlie asked him "surely this is your preferred strike partnership?" and NA looked confused and threw the question back, "is it?" was a bit weird.....NA then went on quickly to explain that returning strikers also looked hungry and he wanted all his strikers "on their toes"....yes, NA occasionally looks confused or negative, but the results show that we are improving rapidly as a team......3 points at Dover might see him as being more positive, let´s see

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I suppose tbf to NA it must be hard because noone really knows what we're capable of we lose games we should have won and win ones we perhaps should not have and even though i know in my heart of hearts i should be saying we're f**king Notts County we'll go to dover and smash them all over i'm actually worried they'll do us and end our recent run of good results because i don't actually know for sure if we're any good or not, we're that inconsistent and our results and performances have been so erratic its hard to say for sure if we're good/bad/average, lucky or unlucky.

Anyway i'm going with us beating Dover ......cos we're f**king Notts County

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Originally Posted by pielover

No abuse from me, and its not about bashing Ardley per se I just really struggle with his hard on for Doyle.

As for considered....

With Doyle on the pitch our record is: L D D W L D D W?

Well that actually flatters him a little because that last win was against Halifax. It was 0-0 when Doyle got red carded and we were a much better team without him. So effectively 1 win in 7 (and that was against a knackered Chorley... I could have played in midfield & we'd still have won).


Without Doyle D L W L W W

So 3 wins in 6 without him. Interestingly that first defeat we had Dunn in midfield because Booty wasn't signed at that point. In fact when playing together in the centre I believe Booty & Rose are 3 for 3.


But, as someone mentioned earlier in thread Doyle will walk back into the side. Doesn't make sense, especially when we have players who will be our future ready to go. It feels like limited thinking to me, that's all.

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My perception is that our results are much worse with Doyle in the side. Kin ell we won a half with 10 men after he’d been sent off.

From what I’ve seen he slows things down when the key thing in this league is to get the ball forward as soon as possible. The frustrating thing is that he will walk back into the side at the expense of someone who doesn’t deserve to be dropped.

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Originally Posted by ForeignLegion

Zero man management skills? How do you work that out? If he won the FA Cup, some would be whining.

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I don’t know how much more divorced from reality you can get.

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Originally Posted by BigFatPie

My perception is that our results are much worse with Doyle in the side. Kin ell we won a half with 10 men after he’d been sent off.

From what I’ve seen he slows things down when the key thing in this league is to get the ball forward as soon as possible. The frustrating thing is that he will walk back into the side at the expense of someone who doesn’t deserve to be dropped.

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Totally agree, he should earn his spot backfrom the bench, why mix up a team thats winning games what message does that send out to the guys who are winning us points right now, also he's 38 he probably wont be with us next season i'm happier seeing our younger players getting games, yes they'll make mistakes but it'll pay off for next season when they'll be more experienced
I would like to see him as a sub , an older more experienced head to play less minutes be used when that experience could be best utilised at the back end of tight games.

100% correct Briddy. I absolutely loved seeing Osbourne smashing those two shots in today. I can’t remember the last decent attacking player we’ve brought through and I would much rather he was given time on the pitch than some owd codger. Especially in this league.

We basically played with two wingers which left us looking a man short.
Enzio wasn't great today and Osborne isn't great at tracking back, Brindley was exposed a lot second half because of that. I prefer O'Brien but Doyle would have been useful in there today, second half especially.
We did win though and do look to have goals in us so they're doing something right.

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Originally Posted by optipez

We basically played with two wingers which left us looking a man short.
Enzio wasn't great today and Osborne isn't great at tracking back, Brindley was exposed a lot second half because of that. I prefer O'Brien but Doyle would have been useful in there today, second half especially.
We did win though and do look to have goals in us so they're doing something right.

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I'd like to see Enzio given a rest, maybe osbourne and the lad we have on loan on the wings, Enzio has been the 11th best player for more games than not season, i dont think we're good enough to carry a luxury player who pulls a worldy out of the bag once in a blue moon.