O/T what song reminds you of your street or neighbourhood?

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Originally Posted by mikemiller

That's a rather simplistic view

That graph reflects the industrial revolution and mechanised production , better farming methods, new inventions, development of medical care, etc - not just capitalism. How many are still living below the poverty line in Britain, or starving worldwide? Millions .

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Almost 1 billion people were taken out of extreme poverty between 1990 and 2010, a decrease from 52% to 21%, and we are on course to end extreme poverty completely in only 10 years time if that trend continues.

Capitalism is the best thing for poor people whereas socialism would reverse that like it did in Venezuela.

One foot in the grave song since it’s full of miserable sods

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDsTTr3YrqU[/QUOT

Great tune Howdy.

Fortunate enough to see them perform the song live at Sheff City Hall

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Perfect acoustics for that tune.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ylT1AZgdIA

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Originally Posted by the_idiotb_stardson

Raging I think you have a very lopsided view of "the message".

The genius of the song, l ike all great art, is multifaceted and works on many different levels. It raises more questions than answers.

To quote F Scott Fitzgerald "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function"

"The message" is an inherent critique of Capitalism but to ignore the message of individual responsibility in the song, does it a disservice.

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Interesting conclusion from the lyrics. Scott certainly intended it as a direct critique of what he saw as Thatcher's economic policies, and their impact on young people. The 'Man' in the song is certainly an addict in denial but how do you interpret it as having any message of individual responsibility? For Scott it was a rare political attack, and he moved from the UK in the months after.

[QUOTE=ragingpup;39411909]Interesting conclusion from the lyrics. Scott certainly intended it as a direct critique of what he saw as Thatcher's economic policies, and their impact on young people. The 'Man' in the song is certainly an addict in denial but how do you interpret it as having any message of individual responsibility? For Scott it was a rare political attack, and he moved from the UK in the months after.[/QUOT

Forgive me raging. I am talking about the Grandmaster Flash song.

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

Interesting conclusion from the lyrics. Scott certainly intended it as a direct critique of what he saw as Thatcher's economic policies, and their impact on young people. The 'Man' in the song is certainly an addict in denial but how do you interpret it as having any message of individual responsibility? For Scott it was a rare political attack, and he moved from the UK in the months after.[/QUOT

Forgive me raging. I am talking about the Grandmaster Flash song.

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Lol. Easy mistake to make. Mike Scott and Grandmaster Flash are often mistaken, both in appearance and literary intent.