O/T Religion

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Originally Posted by kettering_baggie

I remember him sitting on a bar stool in that Peterborough pub before a match. If I remember correctly it was a decent gathering in there.

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That was the first night I met you and many other forum members Kets and very enjoyable it was too, I was made most welcome.

Apart from one person.

He was sat on that stool the whole night and when DonnyValdo took me over and introduced me to him he barely looked up from his pint and didn’t even speak.

He then had the audacity to slag me off for supposedly blanking him at the Barnsley away match.

Blank him........I didn’t even know him.

The bloke was a sociopath.

Hey, I I'll tell you what happens when you die, nothing, absolutely nothing.
It's like switching off the TV and looking at a blank black screen. You won't see hear or know anything, you will be gone for eternity.
Nothing to worry about though you won't know you're dead or remember anything about this.
I sometimes wonder what life is all about. I think it's someone's idea of a joke.

Hey, they reckon it's going to be cold again tomorrow, lucky we have nowhere to go eh?

I once said to someone I was worried about dying.

He asked me what year I was born and I told him 1961.

He asked me how I was feeling about the world in general in 1960.

I told him not to be so f u c k I n g stupid!

“exactly” he replied!


Every night you go to sleep for 7-9 hours, I didn’t realise until recently that to get to sleep you actually have to in effect, hypnotise yourself.

So you put yourself into a comatose state not knowing for certain that you’ll ever emerge from it and you do it without a second thought ( well you did up until reading this )

I suppose if you’re laid there with death as an certainty then the thought of forever is a sobering one.

I would like to be in control when I go which is why I will go to Dignitas early if ever I get told I’m terminal or have Parkinson’s etc.

I feel that although I’m not a brave person generally, my compulsion not to die lying in my own p I s s and s h I t or gasping for breath means I do possess the resolve to press the plunger and slip off quietly.

Do sleep well.

Listened to Dolly Allen at Stourbridge Tennis & squash Club years ago........

........’I said to my old man, I wish that I knew where I was going to die! What do you want to know that for, said he, because I wouldn’t go there, said I’!

Need one say more?

Would the world be a better place without religion?

Imo yes it would!

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Originally Posted by Joy_Division

Growing up in my family nobody I knew went to church on Sundays and I remember my mom telling me I could not go to Sunday school with my mates who had to go because she thought the bloke who ran it was creepy. I think the term ***** would be used now. But as I got to adulthood and experienced marriage, kids, divorce, redundancy, grief and loss etc I started to attend church and I found a gentle solace there and over time I had what is called an epiphany. I was confirmed and now, Covid permitting I attend church every Sunday at 8 o'clock. I would be a liar if some Sundays, in the winter I feel tempted to turn over and go back to sleep, but I don't and I feel great when I am on my way to service. There is no singing, or music, its just a spoken service and I really come away feeling great. That is until I remember Albion happen to be playing later that day and that ruins all the good work church has done for me.

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I'm Catholic, always have been and always will be, I went through a spell when I was a ****ager when I didn't want to go but Mom did, she was very poorly at the time and couldn't get there on her own so I took her, that got me through that spell. Manny, I feel exactly like you do, always feel better when I've attended Mass. :heart:

Brought up Roman Catholic. Refused to go to church around 14 years of age and never went back other than weddings funerals etc. Remained a believer until 10/15 years ago when I examined what religion brought to the world. It is a strength for some and brings them much comfort but if you actually think it through for yourself it is like believing in Father Christmas when you were a child. Eventually you work it out or some grown up tells you Santa is not true to stop you looking stupid.

The end came when I heard people praising God for saving them when everyone else on the plane that crashed died or that they were pulled from the rubble of a collapsed building, the only survivor. It is pure chance, it was always going to be that way. Why did God not stop the building collapsing, the aircraft crashing etc?

My greatest issue however, is how even the most educated people actually believe in a god, it actually astonishes me at how powerful the lust for life after death is. Think of all the hours some spend praying to something that does not exist.

As I said above, religion does give some people a strength and something to cling to, so I guess religion does have a use for some, it is just not for me.

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Originally Posted by Baggies_Boy_Tony

I went through a spell when I was a ****ager

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Why won't this site let me use the words te e ns or te e nager :confused:

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Originally Posted by Baggiemadguern

Brought up Roman Catholic. Refused to go to church around 14 years of age and never went back other than weddings funerals etc. Remained a believer until 10/15 years ago when I examined what religion brought to the world. It is a strength for some and brings them much comfort but if you actually think it through for yourself it is like believing in Father Christmas when you were a child. Eventually you work it out or some grown up tells you Santa is not true to stop you looking stupid.

The end came when I heard people praising God for saving them when everyone else on the plane that crashed died or that they were pulled from the rubble of a collapsed building, the only survivor. It is pure chance, it was always going to be that way. Why did God not stop the building collapsing, the aircraft crashing etc?

My greatest issue however, is how even the most educated people actually believe in a god, it actually astonishes me at how powerful the lust for life after death is. Think of all the hours some spend praying to something that does not exist.

As I said above, religion does give some people a strength and something to cling to, so I guess religion does have a use for some, it is just not for me.

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And then you begin to question everything else you are told and draw your own conclusions.
You are lied to from birth so why believe otherwise?
People willingly climbed aboard Titanic because they were told it was unsinkable and the few lifeboats were for show.
People still believe everything they are told.

I guess this is to Tony and Joy Division, do you use your faith as a comfort and way of making sense of life or do you believe in heaven and hell as it is depicted in the bible? Again not poking sticks just interested to understand.