England v Andorra and Poland

Thanks, that was worth seeing!

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Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill

They once beat England 6-3 at Wembley

Back in the day when England had a good team

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It sometimes gets overlooked , they won 7-1 in Budapest the following year too.
The 6-3 was the first time England had been beaten by a continental side I think.

Obviously, this is a very long time ago, not too far off the 70th anniversary.

To a degree gru has a point, certainly up until the 2016 Euros they'd not even qualified for a tournament in something like 30 years, a far cry from that Golden Team of the 50's.
I think they're much further forward than such as San Marino, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar etc as being an established football nation, and so definitely deserve their chance to try.

I sort of agree there is a lot of makeweight sides in qualifying, particularly with World Cup qualifiers, I suppose that's got a lot to do with FIFA's desire to expand football more globally.

Somebody mentioned maybe having something like a pre- qualifying group for these sides, so they don't get battered every week and the better teams progress on the back of a few wins. That wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Originally Posted by MillersTime

Doubt he was that good

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I think you mean that bad MT 😉

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Originally Posted by MagyarMiller

It sometimes gets overlooked , they won 7-1 in Budapest the following year too.
The 6-3 was the first time England had been beaten by a continental side I think.

Obviously, this is a very long time ago, not too far off the 70th anniversary.

To a degree gru has a point, certainly up until the 2016 Euros they'd not even qualified for a tournament in something like 30 years, a far cry from that Golden Team of the 50's.
I think they're much further forward than such as San Marino, Faroe Islands, Gibraltar etc as being an established football nation, and so definitely deserve their chance to try.

I sort of agree there is a lot of makeweight sides in qualifying, particularly with World Cup qualifiers, I suppose that's got a lot to do with FIFA's desire to expand football more globally.

Somebody mentioned maybe having something like a pre- qualifying group for these sides, so they don't get battered every week and the better teams progress on the back of a few wins. That wouldn't be a bad idea.

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Yes good points but really the good old elephant is still in the room. The idea that club football and world football needs elite leagues whether that be euro super league or eliminating inferior teams in earlier rounds of the World Cup.

We nearly took that step just year but effectively it's not really gone away, just postponed.

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Originally Posted by pip_y

Thanks, that was worth seeing!

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Get him doing that for us! I'd just take him being the wide left player we need.

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Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill

Yes good points but really the good old elephant is still in the room. The idea that club football and world football needs elite leagues whether that be euro super league or eliminating inferior teams in earlier rounds of the World Cup.

We nearly took that step just year but effectively it's not really gone away, just postponed.

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Yes I think you will be proven right

UEFA and the Prem league got upset because it was a proposed breakaway whereby they lost power and therefore money

If they can broker a breakaway deal whereby they retain control (and most importantly money) then, as you say, it's only a matter of time

So it wasn't the principle of a breakaway they didn't like, just the fact that the bank balances would take a huge hit

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Originally Posted by Ronners

I think you mean that bad MT ��

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I'm just going off what the oracle saw. He knows his stuff >;)

If Puskas can get close to those rave reviews then he was half decent...

Talking of teams in decline it's Poland up next.

Slightly more of a challenge

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Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill

Talking of teams in decline it's Poland up next.

Slightly more of a challenge

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Certainly proving that way so far. Poland properly up for it and making life hard for the PC boys. Like against the Hungary last week, got to keep patient, and try to quicken the forward passing up when they get the chance. This for me is the only thing marking the difference between us and Italy. They do it brilliantly. We've got to step up on that.

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

Certainly proving that way so far. Poland properly up for it and making life hard for the PC boys. Like against the Hungary last week, got to keep patient, and try to quicken the forward passing up when they get the chance. This for me is the only thing marking the difference between us and Italy. They do it brilliantly. We've got to step up on that.

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Patience rewarded. Kane screamer makes the difference! You Lions!