OT Trump's Tariffs

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Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie

The Palestinians want a free country, which you say didn't exist, yet the Brits had a Police Force after WW2 named the Palestine Police. Israel also wants a free country which previously didn't exist.

If we go back in time, that whole area was lived in by the Semitic twelve tribes of Abraham of which the Jews were one tribe and the peoples who were later to be called Palestinian were another tribe. All of the tribes were wanderers.

The Philistines who the Muslims in Gaza are mainly descended from were the original inhabitants of Gaza and not the Israelites.

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I also give no credence to a culture which publishes videos of when to and how to beat your wife. Tolerance does not exist with these people. Tyey still hokd about 60 hostages BTW which started this whole saga off. The people of Gaza I believe are starting to turn on HAMAS which is welcome. For evil to prosper all that needs to happen is for good men to do nothing.

As someone who stopped making comments on a regular basis many moons ago because of the political fallout, I will just say Zippity comments echo mine, that's it. But I do like following the football analysis on here. Some really good posts on Newcastle, PIF etc. And the comments during a match are a delight, I feel the anxiety as a NUFC fan, unless we are at least 3-0 up!! I might even try and join in but compared to some comments mine may not be up to scratch. Here's looking for an good win against Leicester.

And I understand that the Word Palestine was a descriptive word of where the Philistines lived

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Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie

And I understand that the Word Palestine was a descriptive word of where the Philistines lived

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Study the map and you will see to the west of Juda is where the Philistines lived.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_of_Israel

And I understand that the Word Palestine was a descriptive word of where the Philistines lived

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Originally Posted by Sclox

I also give no credence to a culture which publishes videos of when to and how to beat your wife. Tolerance does not exist with these people. Tyey still hokd about 60 hostages BTW which started this whole saga off. The people of Gaza I believe are starting to turn on HAMAS which is welcome. For evil to prosper all that needs to happen is for good men to do nothing.

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Surely though that is the culture of Hamas and not of the ordinary innocent Palestinian

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Originally Posted by Zippity

The judge in the E Jean Carroll case case said her accusation of rape was "substantially true"

As for him being racist? Well. right from his refusal to allow black people to rent his properties in the early 70s and continuing with his constant slurs against , amongst others, Mexicans, immigrants and black people, the fact that the KKK and the Proud Boys support him-because they recognise one of their own-and he refuses to disavow them.

In terms of Russiahe's basically parroting the Kremlin line and his treatment of Zelensky was shameful, as was withdrawing support and intelligence. As for Israel, their treatment of the Palestinians has been a series of war crimes for decades (on a related note, Hamas are utter scum who should be destroyed but the Israelis use Hamas as an excuse for their, frankly, genocidal actions-quite the irony given what the Jews experienced in the war).

Trump has empowered and emboldened racists and bigots the world over. Last week, one of his senators openly quoted Joseph Goebels to support what he was saying.

But, that's just my take. I know I'm not going to fall out with folk on here about our differing political opinions buit I'm probably going to leave my input on this here as none of us are going to changes each other's minds.

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I don?t often agree with Zippity but on this occasion I fully agree barring one thing
HE IS A BULLY

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Originally Posted by Sclox

Have to correct you there Bill. Gaza is the land of Canaan a Semitic speaking people from 2nd Cent BC. Archeology, (synagogues) scripture (Samson story etc) and historical record - which the Romans did well say so. Philistines were the "sea people" - Greeks who were the original invaders of Isreal and settled in various cities in existence today like Ashkelon/Ashdod etc . The name Palestine/Palestina was used by the Emporer Hadrian as a name for Isreal to piiss the Jews off as they wouldn't bend the knee to the pagan gods. Came from the word "Philistines".

No such place as the West Bank either. Its Judea and Sumaria.

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Think you?ll find DNA studies point to the Palestinian people having roots in the Levant region including Palestine going back a few thousand years. Now if we did the same for the current bunch of occupiers they?ll be Europeans, Russians, etc. Just because some men decided to carve up a piece of land that was not theirs in the first place doesn?t give it legitimacy.

As for Judea and Samaria? You?re correct. There is no such place as the West Bank. The whole region is called Palestine. Just like it was over a hundred years ago before some artificial state was forced into the region. Europeans messed up and the Palestinians paid.

Nothing like a few sweeping generalisations. What about the thousands of women, children and men held in the Israeli dungeons? Without charge?

The calorie restrictions before this line in the sand of 7 Oct?

Plenty of actual Palestinian beheaded babies. That okay because they?re not our friends or a certain ethnic group?

The targeting of Ambulances. Once unequivocal proof of their war crimes emerges the narrative changes. Investigations will be made? a few good men. Do me a favour. Bunch of blood thirsty war criminals.

As a British radio host over here once said, "As long as you've got a hole in your Rs there will never be peace in the middle east". He was right.
As far as the Trump saga goes I can only say that the U.S. dodged a bullet when Harris lost the election, she made Biden look like Einstein.

I wrote a massive post?

Deleted it,

This will do? it?s for the best 😆