Players to stay and those to go

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Originally Posted by Young_Nudger

I?ll answer that.
No one.

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Where you go spectacularly wrong is to not understand that every edge gained in sport has a limited shelf life and your constant references to the so called Barnsley Way and the Val season unfortunately makes you look extremely foolish .

I've just recently watched a documentary on Netflix when Brawn and Jenson Button won the Formula One world championship in 2009 .

It's one of the greatest underdog stories in sports history , they didn't have a penny to scratch their @rses with , Mercedes gave them an engine despite having a F1 team themselves , something gathering dust in the corner of their garage .

However they had an edge at the start of the season and a genius bit of kit that gave the car more downforce than the competition but it was a one off and Ferrari , McLaren and Red Bull caught up with them soon enough .

Nothing in sport is forever and more money eventually prevails , the Oakland A's moneyball seasons when they competed at the elite level of Baseball for a couple of season's despite paying their players a quarter of what the Yankees and the Red Sox were paying didn't last .

Nottingham Forest won't stay the course , I'll wager they will finish nearer the bottom than the top next season , in fact I'll guarantee it .

Vals team enjoyed an 8 match winning streak which propelled us in to the play offs playing a style of football that nobody could counter for 3 months .

Eventually it was sussed , Brawn were sussed , Oakland A's sussed and Nottingham Forest are sussed too .

Animal - where you and others go wrong with regards to accusations surrounding the Game Model and the Barnsley Way is believing that it?s me that?s saying these things.
It isn?t - it?s the club.

By saying I haven?t heard these things said at Supporters Trust meetings and these things haven?t been written down by the club is in affect calling me a liar.

Not good.

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Originally Posted by Young_Nudger

Animal - where you and others go wrong with regards to accusations surrounding the Game Model and the Barnsley Way is believing that it?s me that?s saying these things.
It isn?t - it?s the club.

By saying I haven?t heard these things said at Supporters Trust meetings and these things haven?t been written down by the club is in affect calling me a liar.

Not good.

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At no point has anyone called you a liar so let's put that to bed straightaway .

The club say many things , it doesn't mean it's reality , the criticism levelled at you is that you believe everything they say and stubbornly stick to it despite facts and overwhelming evidence to the contrary .

It's the old mining mentality in you and the pit dust still residing in your eyelids and lug holes .

You also seem to have little interest in other sports and football outside of Oakwell , that gives you a very closed mind and a lack of appreciation of a bigger picture .

Your probably a victim of your own characteristics and I dare say your formative environment but certainly NOT a liar .

If I thought you were I'd have told you so many times over .

Animal - good stuff 👍

I?m looking at what they are saying - who they are recruiting - how they lineup - and how those individuals step into how the team plays.
All of it comes back to what they have been saying.
It?s not that I believe everything they say - I witness everything they say when I watch a game.
They are trying their best to put what they are saying into practice.
But over the last two seasons they have failed to do that due to HCs that have not followed their instructions.
Sormaz confirmed this about Collins at the last Supporters Trust Meeting.

As you know - NO ONE takes the owners to task more than I do at Supporters Trust Meetings.
As I?ve said before - it?s impossible to understand what?s happening on the field if there is no understanding of what?s happening off the field.

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Originally Posted by animallittle3

At no point has anyone called you a liar so let's put that to bed straightaway .

The club say many things , it doesn't mean it's reality , the criticism levelled at you is that you believe everything they say and stubbornly stick to it despite facts and overwhelming evidence to the contrary .

It's the old mining mentality in you and the pit dust still residing in your eyelids and lug holes .

You also seem to have little interest in other sports and football outside of Oakwell , that gives you a very closed mind and a lack of appreciation of a bigger picture .

Your probably a victim of your own characteristics and I dare say your formative environment but certainly NOT a liar .

If I thought you were I'd have told you so many times over .

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I'd describe Nudger from his time on this forum as a hyperbolic but not a liar.

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Originally Posted by Young_Nudger

Animal - good stuff ��

I?m looking at what they are saying - who they are recruiting - how they lineup - and how those individuals step into how the team plays.
All of it comes back to what they have been saying.
It?s not that I believe everything they say - I witness everything they say when I watch a game.
They are trying their best to put what they are saying into practice.
But over the last two seasons they have failed to do that due to HCs that have not followed their instructions.
Sormaz confirmed this about Collins at the last Supporters Trust Meeting.

As you know - NO ONE takes the owners to task more than I do at Supporters Trust Meetings.
As I?ve said before - it?s impossible to understand what?s happening on the field if there is no understanding of what?s happening off the field.

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The thing is why would the owners know more about how to play the game than professional players and coaches ? it is a nonsense and no wonder we are going down the toilet , as for what they say at meetings etc I am convinced they are paying lip service and if you want to believe them then that is your choice but I am sure when you were a child you were told that there was a father xmas and also a tooth fairy but eventually you realise that this was not the case and I also believe that one day the penny will drop and you will realise that they are completely out of their depth and are taking our club down hill .

Shads, or anyone, got the faintest idea why these owners came here and why they are still here?
It can?t be good for them and it?s not good for us!

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Originally Posted by EthelRed

Shads, or anyone, got the faintest idea why these owners came here and why they are still here?
It can?t be good for them and it?s not good for us!

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Well that tells its own story Ethel , they were attracted by Conway in the hope of making a few quid .

Which just goes to show how much they know and how easy they are to be manipulated .

These are the type of people who'd fall for the send me your bank details scam when it comes to football .

We once had a stable hotel business in Torquay under Patrick Cryne that is until Basil Fawlty took it on .

Somaz is Manuel .

Looks like Hourihane will be heavily involved in recruitment in the summer .

Wants to play with a back four and two wingers .


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Originally Posted by animallittle3

Well that tells its own story Ethel , they were attracted by Conway in the hope of making a few quid .

Which just goes to show how much they know and how easy they are to be manipulated .

These are the type of people who'd fall for the send me your bank details scam when it comes to football .

We once had a stable hotel business in Torquay under Patrick Cryne that is until Basil Fawlty took it on .

Somaz is Manuel .

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A think Manuel's more clued up