OT Border Control State of Emergency

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Originally Posted by Stovicmiller

Walking my dogs through Greasbrough park on my way to the bottom fields I noticed a tent up against the hedge . On my way back there were two what looked like council workers maybe social workers? talking to a fella in the tent. The fella looked disheveled he looked homeless living on the streets. I went home and made him a couple of sandwiches and popped back down. In that time he?d gone and so had the council workers . Anyway the sandwiches didn?t go to waste, dogs had em . Got me thinking what a state this country is in when we have thousands of our homeless on the streets while the dinghy boys live in hotels.

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Stovic, too true.

For me it's about time a new National ID Card came into force for EVERYONE in the UK. I've nothing to hide so would go and get one when asked to do so.

Run it on the same basis as the US law does when it stops you for a traffic violation. 'Licence and registration please' where as here it would be 'Can I see your ID Card please?' If not produced your arrested and shipped off until you could prove who you are.

We would probably end up with a mass stop and arrest situation and the big question would be, 'where would you keep the ones with no ID?' but, doesn't it prove a point that you'd soon see who resides here legally and of course those who have no right to be here in the UK!

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Originally Posted by Brin

Stovic, too true.

For me it's about time a new National ID Card came into force for EVERYONE in the UK. I've nothing to hide so would go and get one when asked to do so.

Run it on the same basis as the US law does when it stops you for a traffic violation. 'Licence and registration please' where as here it would be 'Can I see your ID Card please?' If not produced your arrested and shipped off until you could prove who you are.

We would probably end up with a mass stop and arrest situation and the big question would be, 'where would you keep the ones with no ID?' but, doesn't it prove a point that you'd soon see who resides here legally and of course those who have no right to be here in the UK!

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I'm not sure that's true Brin because you don't need to prove that you are in the US legally to get a driver's licence (or insurance) which most people use as proof of ID when stopped.

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Originally Posted by CAMiller

I'm not sure that's true Brin because you don't need to prove that you are in the US legally to get a driver's licence (or insurance) which most people use as proof of ID when stopped.

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Here, like in the uk you have a few days to produce your documents.

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Originally Posted by frogmiller

Here, like in the uk you have a few days to produce your documents.

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Some interesting figures

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/mot...odes-revealed/

Get ready, boys and girls. You're next for a call up to the Dads Army to stop any would be foreign invaders landing on our shores. Sir Stammer reckons we must be ready for the threat from the Kremlin.
We'll be told that we will have to earn our pensions and winter fuel allowance.
It'll be in next week's mini budget.

PS Small boat people will be ignored. They don't count. Totally immune. Lol.

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Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill

Some interesting figures

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/news/mot...odes-revealed/

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So looking at that 5 out of 15 worst areas belong to Birmingham. Glad it's not close to us. I also see a Donny post code in there too.

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Originally Posted by CAMiller

I'm not sure that's true Brin because you don't need to prove that you are in the US legally to get a driver's licence (or insurance) which most people use as proof of ID when stopped.

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CAM, all I'm saying is bring in an ID card for everyone. If anyone doesn't want to sign up for one then questions should be asked why not, what's there to be afraid of?

Of course you'll get the individuals who say their privacy is being invaded and I bet those type have some sort of ID like a driving licence already so what's their problem?

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Originally Posted by Brin

So looking at that 5 out of 15 worst areas belong to Birmingham. Glad it's not close to us. I also see a Donny post code in there too.

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Think of the demographics Brin

Cultures that want something for nothing

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Originally Posted by Brin

CAM, all I'm saying is bring in an ID card for everyone. If anyone doesn't want to sign up for one then questions should be asked why not, what's there to be afraid of?

Of course you'll get the individuals who say their privacy is being invaded and I bet those type have some sort of ID like a driving licence already so what's their problem?

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There is a difference between proving ID and proving the right to be somewhere, passports and visas are intended to do that.

Whenever I'm there and asked to prove my ID (usually when I'm using my unsigned CC as here in the US you are advised not to sign them) I show my US driver's licence which has a photo of me and a copy of my signature on it. It proves I am who I say I am, not that I'm in the UK legally or not.

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Originally Posted by CAMiller

There is a difference between proving ID and proving the right to be somewhere, passports and visas are intended to do that.

Whenever I'm there and asked to prove my ID (usually when I'm using my unsigned CC as here in the US you are advised not to sign them) I show my US driver's licence which has a photo of me and a copy of my signature on it. It proves I am who I say I am, not that I'm in the UK legally or not.

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CAM, do you think we'll ever see one of these again in our lifetime?

The government introduced National Registration Identity Cards in World War II. Everyone, including children, had to carry an identity (ID) card at all times to show who they were and where they lived. The identity card gave the owner's name and address, including changes of address.