Maynard In/Out/Shake it all about, Richard Montague's Recruitment, Cundy's Hip etc.

Think I?ve said it before but I really don?t understand the grief RM gets from some quarters. The recruitment since the takeover has been fantastic barring the odd apparent blunder like Morias?.who I still think has something, but just didn?t work out.

There?s been some loan moves for sure that haven?t worked out but the brothers and RM have ensured that they?ve strengthened every season in key areas whilst still playing decent to really attractive football. When ***** players like Wootton, Roberts, Rodrigues and Macca have moved on we?ve actually strengthened those positions?.who is responsible for that?

Without going into it in much detail I?d suggest a 70% success rate in permanent signings

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Originally Posted by legs77

Every club makes bad signings I dont dispute that.

Lets look at players with injury records before they sigbrd Ness Cundy Morias now when you are L2 dont you think that is a huge risk of finances ?

We signed all of them knowing this info.

I am also aware of Jones too he is a one off.

As my original point stated SM gets flak if players signed are not up to it is that all on him ? Also in Europe people in RM communicate with fans/media more in England none of them do so fans ramp pressure on the coach.

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What the hell are you talking about? You?re talking about injuries like they?re just one issue and you?re either prone or not.
Ness is proving to be a very good signing. Morias we signed in the NL and Cundy I couldn?t tell you about.
So by your logic we should only go for safe bets like Scott who had no history of injuries but has spent 75% of his Notts career ruled out. And also Bajrami and Palmer.
Im guessing you weren?t happy that Palmer signed a new contract, now being a crock.
I would take your point if we were signing players that had history of repeat injuries and clearly had a reoccurring problem?.but we don?t.

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

What the hell are you talking about? You?re talking about injuries like they?re just one issue and you?re either prone or not.
Ness is proving to be a very good signing. Morias we signed in the NL and Cundy I couldn?t tell you about.
So by your logic we should only go for safe bets like Scott who had no history of injuries but has spent 75% of his Notts career ruled out. And also Bajrami and Palmer.
Im guessing you weren?t happy that Palmer signed a new contract, now being a crock.
I would take your point if we were signing players that had history of repeat injuries and clearly had a reoccurring problem?.but we don?t.

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That?s the thing, how many players has RM signed? 30 odd and how many came with injuries? Not that many I don?t think.
There?s nothing wrong with signing a player that?s injured as long as your confident its not serious like we did Ness. When Morias got injured for D&R it was classed as a knock and he?d played plenty of games before. As you say you could anyone and they could to do their ACL 2 days later on training. If you don?t sign players with injuries you?re probably missing out on 15-20% of the market.

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

What the hell are you talking about? You?re talking about injuries like they?re just one issue and you?re either prone or not.
Ness is proving to be a very good signing. Morias we signed in the NL and Cundy I couldn?t tell you about.
So by your logic we should only go for safe bets like Scott who had no history of injuries but has spent 75% of his Notts career ruled out. And also Bajrami and Palmer.
Im guessing you weren?t happy that Palmer signed a new contract, now being a crock.
I would take your point if we were signing players that had history of repeat injuries and clearly had a reoccurring problem?.but we don?t.

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Well put it one way id not sign a bloke whose spent a whole year out with a hip injury who cant run.

We're going round in circles here my original point is the way the model works is its a management team but only our coach is getting flak whether that is IB LW or SM.

Im of the opinion if you as coach hasnt bought the players in then you should not be the only one facing tough questions.

Its why I laugh when people suggest Robins or people like him if SM goes he is a manager not a coach.

There is no safe bets as you say but you play the percentages and usually it works out ok generally.

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Originally Posted by legs77

Well put it one way id not sign a bloke whose spent a whole year out with a hip injury who cant run.

We're going round in circles here my original point is the way the model works is its a management team but only our coach is getting flak whether that is IB LW or SM.

Im of the opinion if you as coach hasnt bought the players in then you should not be the only one facing tough questions.

Its why I laugh when people suggest Robins or people like him if SM goes he is a manager not a coach.

There is no safe bets as you say but you play the percentages and usually it works out ok generally.

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That is what we have done and I would say it has worked out better than OK.

Who is the one who can't run?

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Originally Posted by magpie_mania

That is what we have done and I would say it has worked out better than OK.

Who is the one who can't run?

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Cundy cant run or turn well imo.

We'll agree to disagree on this.

Lets hope we can get a few more in for 2nd half of the season.

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Originally Posted by legs77

Well put it one way id not sign a bloke whose spent a whole year out with a hip injury who cant run.

We're going round in circles here my original point is the way the model works is its a management team but only our coach is getting flak whether that is IB LW or SM.

Im of the opinion if you as coach hasnt bought the players in then you should not be the only one facing tough questions.

Its why I laugh when people suggest Robins or people like him if SM goes he is a manager not a coach.

There is no safe bets as you say but you play the percentages and usually it works out ok generally.

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That makes sense to me the recruitment team are in the background so protected from media duties, other than once or twice a year. Would be much better if any transfer or recruitment questions were aimed at Montague rather than Maynard on a regular basis.

When you say only the head coaches are getting flak do you mean on social media by fans? Because I have seen criticism of Montague and unbelievably the owners too.

If you are instead talking about official media in press conferences and post game interviews then the head coach rarely gets any flak or tough questions. Quite the opposite to an embarrassing point to be honest.

What I can?t understand is overall our recruitment is clearly good and Montague has a much better success rate with signings than the fans were used to before. So why does he need to be put under pressure? Why should he be receiving flak? His recruitment combined with other factors has resulted in profiting making player sales, head coach compensation and a return to the EFL

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Originally Posted by legs77

Cundy cant run or turn well imo.

We'll agree to disagree on this.

Lets hope we can get a few more in for 2nd half of the season.

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Well I hope Cundy can run because I somehow think he might be in the squad tomorrow.

Swale:- Can we rename this thread please because it has now taken on a whole different slant?

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Originally Posted by 1955pie

Swale:- Can we rename this thread please because it has now taken on a whole different slant?

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Yes please

Could we call it Impressed with the leadership?

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Originally Posted by Mapperleypie

Yes please

Could we call it Impressed with the leadership?

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Only after an on-line petition with 1 million signatures before it is put up to the owners for deliberation.