O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

... come on Och, the Cons were entirely self-serving and didn't care if it showed. Liebpour, to my (our?) utter shame, are simply too thick to read the situation even when in opposition. All they imagined was get in, control the money and everything would be ok. Did nobody whisper... you need a plan? Too late - noses in trough. Mr Establishment Stirer couldn't organise the proverbial pi55 up. Remember, all he is is a lawyer...lawyers don't create anything, they just follow a book of instructions which is written and designed to protect the core Establishment - Saville, et al, anyone? He really is a model Pontius Pilate.
Reeves has never had a proper job. Talk to anyone with coonections to the BOE (don't even bother wuth HBOS); it's just an Establishment wing the does sweet f-all. How long does it take them to make a correct decision ... has a correct decision ever been made by the BOE? Of course not; everything has to line-up with our WEF friends. They're dead in the water ... Lazarus, anyone ... ?

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

I am less worried about them not having a plan than their seeming inability to set any kind of agenda in the media. They've done a lot of what I voted for, and yet still it seems its those against those policies - most in their manifesto - who dominate the airwaves.

You can't get much more establishment than the BOE, but the people I know who have worked there wouldn't recognise it being in hoc to the WEF (and the people I know at the WEF would find the idea they run anything very funny).

I don't have much complaint with their recent interest rate decisions.

I’ve never followed politics more than I’ve needed to but I’ve never understood why people think different political parties are either all good or all bad. They’re all exactly the same masquerading under a slightly different set of principles.
The setup of government is they need to constantly fight battles short term so will waste energy putting things in place for the long term good.
I’ve always sided slightly more to the tories as it’s generally been in my best interest as a business owner, but they’ve been an absolute shambles.

Starmer & the rest of these very poor bunch of 2nd rate Politicians were elected by a very small amount of the population, mainly due to the even poorer outgoing bunch.
What Starmer has done is to take GB into the gutter in record time, biggest shot in the foot was the riots and him labelling all the accused as far right thugs jailed in record time, I am not far right just plain British that deplored Corbyn but got something as bad.

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Originally Posted by LaxtonLad

Cutting the OAP Christmas £300 per couple will cost them two votes times millions of electors at the next election.

We might be old buggers now and some won't be with us at the next election, but others will grow into pensioners and replace them and they will remember how shoddy their not so comfortable parents were treated within months of electing this government.

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Whilst I totally object to poorer OAPs having their winter fuel allowance stopped I do know a lot of OAPs who don’t need it and they admit it.
If it’s properly means tested it’s really not that unfair is it ?

When people are acting like thugs and chanting right wing slogans, well...

The UK was already in a very very bad state. It's going to take years to try to fix. Whether Labour are doing the right things to fix it is a fair topic of discussion, but their job is immense.

It is when the bar is so high to qualify that a quid over and you lose it.

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Originally Posted by OchPie

When people are acting like thugs and chanting right wing slogans, well...

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You conveniently miss a lot out, as someone else just previously said in a previous post you label the centre in the middle as far right which most of us are not yet conveniently forget how the left and Islamists have turned the clock back to resemble the Nazis in the 1930s with their anti Jewish hate. You and the rest of your collective are very dangerous and more right wing than those that you berate!

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Sir Keir Starmer has slapped down Transport Secretary Louise Haigh after her scathing criticism of P&O Ferries reportedly jeopardised a £1 billion investment in the UK.

The Prime Minister said her call for a boycott of the ferry firm was “not the view of the Government”.

Dubai-based DP World, P&O’s parent firm, is reported to have been planning to announce a major investment in the UK at the Government’s International Investment Summit next Monday.



But, according to Sky News, that investment is under review after Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner and Transport Secretary Ms Haigh repeated criticism of P&O Ferries.

The operator was criticised by politicians from both main parties in March 2022 when it suddenly sacked 800 British seafarers and replaced them with cheaper, mainly overseas, staff, saying it was necessary to stave off bankruptcy.

Asked whether Ms Haigh was right to call for a boycott of the firm, which she called a “rogue operator”, Sir Keir said: “Well, that’s not the view of the Government.”

Asked about the DP World situation, Sir Keir told the BBC’s Newscast: “Well, look, I think we’ll resolve that.

“But… I think if you look at the last three or four weeks, you’ve seen £40-plus billions’ worth of investment.”



On Wednesday, Ms Rayner and Ms Haigh introduced legislation to prevent similar actions, with the Transport Secretary describing P&O Ferries as “cowboy operators” and Ms Rayner saying the incident had been “an outrageous example of manipulation by an employer”.

In an ITV interview Ms Haigh went further, saying: “I’ve been boycotting P&O Ferries for two-and-a-half years, and I encourage consumers to do the same.”

On Friday, Sky News reported that DP World chairman Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem ordered Monday’s announcement to be cancelled and the planned investment in the company’s London Gateway port to be reviewed.

Monday’s high-profile investment summit will be used by the Government as a chance to champion firms who have already committed billions of pounds to the UK and attempt to woo others who are considering new deals.

Sir Keir said: “The proof of the pudding in terms of the strategy we’ve adopted is ‘are those big numbers coming in for investment?’

“The answer to that is yes. And I’m confident there’ll be more coming out of the summit as well as those that’ll be coming in to the summit.”

But it has not been plain sailing – as well as the DP World issue an email blunder led to the contact details of business chiefs being shared with other attendees.

The Department for Business and Trade (DBT) referred itself to the data protection watchdog over the error but the PA news agency has been told no further action will be taken.

Officials had sent an email about the summit without using blind carbon copy (BCC), meaning the contact details of several business leaders including French tycoon Bernard Arnault were displayed to other recipients.

Mr Arnault, who owns the luxury goods firm LVMH, has an estimated net worth of 182 billion dollars (£139 billion) and is ranked as the world’s fifth richest person by Forbes.

The DBT said the blunder, first reported by The Sun newspaper, had been reported to the Information Commissioner’s Office.