Message for some on here..

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Originally Posted by toptoon

You don't understand. There is no debate. How can you debate with someone who says one thing today and then the complete opposite tomorrow as has been proven on here re Pboro. Don't you see?

You keep saying that the majority don't want to read another opinion. Wrong. But if you're going to present a different opinion to the majority then it has to be coherent and consistent. If your view keeps changing just to keep the argument going then you lose all credibility and it becomes 'sh*t stirring' as you called it.

If, like Pboro, I spent the best part of a season slagging off Shelvey and then declared that Rafa should now build a team around him, what would you think?

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Basically spot on.

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Originally Posted by ronandtet

Thought you created your own nufc forum ?

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I did. I still have it but I don't use it. I never pushed for people to use it. I could have done but just used it for my own and a few people's musings.
I haven't posted on it since August 2016.

I created it in 2015, August I think.
Look Ron, I'm here posting but if you people don't want me here then get shot of me. I'm not going to beg to stay.

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Originally Posted by pboromag

They are itching to ban

The original post i.e. Tut has it correct

When you get a respected poster like him back who can see what is happening people need to take note

It's easy to say we scare people away

But maybe a stale everyone agrees board would do the same

There has always been arguments on here
There has always been a glut of similar threads

Some are big an educated enough to choose what they read or partake in

Others call for bans

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You are the only constantly and pathetically calling for bans. Your eat sleep and breathe calling for bans,

As far as I'm concerned the two of you have a much over rated opinion of your selves other wise there wouldnt be so many controversial posts trying draw attention. You can't do it with normal posts so keep it up with pro Ashley/Carr and anti Rafa.

It always gets a little tickle. ;D

kerb it pat we,ve heard it before

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

I did. I still have it but I don't use it. I never pushed for people to use it. I could have done but just used it for my own and a few people's musings.
I haven't posted on it since August 2016.

I created it in 2015, August I think.
Look Ron, I'm here posting but if you people don't want me here then get shot of me. I'm not going to beg to stay.

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nobody has said ban you , you present an opposite view to everybody else but its not nasty for want of a better word . You do put up posts that are like war and peace but i suspect with most people they are ignored or very slightly scanned , thats not a slight on you just human nature

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Originally Posted by ronandtet

nobody has said ban you , you present an opposite view to everybody else but its not nasty for want of a better word . You do put up posts that are like war and peace but i suspect with most people they are ignored or very slightly scanned , thats not a slight on you just human nature

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I'm happy enough for anyone to overlook my posts.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

You don't understand. There is no debate. How can you debate with someone who says one thing today and then the complete opposite tomorrow as has been proven on here re Pboro. Don't you see?

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No I don't see because it's not true.
Yeah he changes from time to time, over the season but don't we all?

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Originally Posted by toptoon

You keep saying that the majority don't want to read another opinion. Wrong

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No I'm not. I'm saying people simply believe mass opinion is right and they basically look down on alternate opinion to it if that opinion is in the minority. It's the truth.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

But if you're going to present a different opinion to the majority then it has to be coherent and consistent.

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That depends on what you're trying to say and the time it's said, as I said in the first quote, unless you mean something else.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

If your view keeps changing just to keep the argument going then you lose all credibility and it becomes 'sh*t stirring' as you called it.

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Not true....not true at all. That's where you need to understand it.
How many topics did we have on Mo Diame?
Get him out of the club.
Never play anothers game.
He's lazy.
Etc etc etc.
Then all change.
So tell me something about this change in opinions because we all do it but like I said before, mass opinion at the time stumps minority opinion and the minority will be cast off as anything and everything and blamed for things the masses do regularly.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

If, like Pboro, I spent the best part of a season slagging off Shelvey and then declared that Rafa should now build a team around him, what would you think?

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I'd think something's changed with Shelvey....and it did.
Shelvey wised up a bit and Rafa wised up in tactics and allowed a freer role to fit his talent instead of having him stifled.

Same with Diame. Same with quite a few.
If you think I'm wrong then explain it all.

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Originally Posted by HughieG

Basically spot on.

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It's not though, is it?

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Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie

As far as I'm concerned the two of you have a much over rated opinion of your selves other wise there wouldnt be so many controversial posts trying draw attention. You can't do it with normal posts so keep it up with pro Ashley/Carr and anti Rafa.

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My opinion is whatever my opinion is at any given time. I'll argue it strongly just as many argue their opinion.
You also go on about drawing attention to ourselves. Don't you do this?

Don't you put posts up to goad?
Don't you have a high opinion of yourself?
Don't you try to draw attention?

You don't need to answer any of those questions.

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Originally Posted by ghostrider

My opinion is whatever my opinion is at any given time. I'll argue it strongly just as many argue their opinion.
You also go on about drawing attention to ourselves. Don't you do this?

Don't you put posts up to goad?
Don't you have a high opinion of yourself?
Don't you try to draw attention?

You don't need to answer any of those questions.

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No I don't put up posts to goad. What I do is reply to the goaders and point out how they are childishly posting.

I neither draw attention to myself, I draw attention to adverse opoinins and untruthful facts.

And no I haven't got nor need a high opinion of myself. I'm quite happy and content to be in my own shoes without the constant bragging of wealth, supposed exotic trips around the world and an I am better and wealthier than you attitude.

The many posters who have met me on here would probably say I am quite a modest person.

There is always a happy medium for everything.

You and your paramour just carry on in your own way and we'll see what the eventual outcome is.

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Originally Posted by toptoon

You don't understand. There is no debate. How can you debate with someone who says one thing today and then the complete opposite tomorrow as has been proven on here re Pboro. Don't you see?

You keep saying that the majority don't want to read another opinion. Wrong. But if you're going to present a different opinion to the majority then it has to be coherent and consistent. If your view keeps changing just to keep the argument going then you lose all credibility and it becomes 'sh*t stirring' as you called it.

If, like Pboro, I spent the best part of a season slagging off Shelvey and then declared that Rafa should now build a team around him, what would you think?

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Can people not change an opinion

My opinion of dummet in the majority is he is a liability
But at times he does things that I think he has improved on

I have said many times I don't rate Rafa
However I did praise him when we went on the 4 game winning streak

However when he dropped Gayle for the loan signing when we were on the streak
My opinion reverted back
Over a length of time many change their opinions on all things