OT/ Optimitc noises from both sides..

Will gas be cut???

Perhaps....from SKY.....
Russia says it will cut off gas supply to Europe after G7 vow

The Group of Seven major economies has agreed to reject a Moscow demand for gas to be bought only in Russian currency.

Russia's Vladimir Putin made the demand last week of "unfriendly" countries - presumably those that have imposed sanctions.

He instructed the country's central bank to work out a procedure for buyers to acquire rubles in Russia, in a move apparently designed to support the currency - which has collapsed against other currencies.

Germany's energy minister has said meeting the demand would be a "one-sided and clear breach of the existing contracts".

He added that "payment in rouble is not acceptable and we will urge the companies affected not to follow [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's demand".

In retaliation, a Russian politician said the G7's refusal will definitely lead to a halt in supplies, according to Ria news agency.

Many European countries rely on Russian gas, although the UK has already banned imports.

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Originally Posted by Dubbag

Will gas be cut???

Perhaps....from SKY.....
Russia says it will cut off gas supply to Europe after G7 vow

The Group of Seven major economies has agreed to reject a Moscow demand for gas to be bought only in Russian currency.

Russia's Vladimir Putin made the demand last week of "unfriendly" countries - presumably those that have imposed sanctions.

He instructed the country's central bank to work out a procedure for buyers to acquire rubles in Russia, in a move apparently designed to support the currency - which has collapsed against other currencies.

Germany's energy minister has said meeting the demand would be a "one-sided and clear breach of the existing contracts".

He added that "payment in rouble is not acceptable and we will urge the companies affected not to follow [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's demand".

In retaliation, a Russian politician said the G7's refusal will definitely lead to a halt in supplies, according to Ria news agency.

Many European countries rely on Russian gas, although the UK has already banned imports.

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You watch France and Germany creep
Now!!! They have had weeks to source this elsewhere FFS!!

Putin should be told to go f uck himself and a clear message sent!! Presume Russia will be in contractual dispute too!!

The situation seems to be changing quickly now.
Name calling seems to be working on Putin......

Reports suggest reality starting to hit home....

Russia drops calls for Ukraine to be 'denazified' and is prepared to let it join EU -report
In further indications that Russia is scaling down its aims in the conflict, a report this morning has suggested it it willing to make two key concessions.

Calls for Ukraine to be "denazified" - widely understood to be code for regime change - have been dropped by Russia as part of ceasefire negotiations, sources have told The Financial Times.

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The situation seems to be changing quickly now.
Name calling seems to be working on Putin......

Reports suggest reality starting to hit home....

Russia drops calls for Ukraine to be 'denazified' and is prepared to let it join EU -report
In further indications that Russia is scaling down its aims in the conflict, a report this morning has suggested it it willing to make two key concessions.

Calls for Ukraine to be "denazified" - widely understood to be code for regime change - have been dropped by Russia as part of ceasefire negotiations, sources have told The Financial Times.

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Russia should leave all occupied territory except the Donbas perhaps and agree to the following:

Pay every single penny to rebuild all the damage inflicted on Ukraine.

Release all Ukrainians transported to Russia

Continual freeze of Oligarchs assets - its money laundering!

Sanctions should not be released though for at least 6/12 months. Putin needs to be seen to have failed and huge consequences inflicted on Russia due to the brutal slaughter of innocent women and kids.

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Russia should leave all occupied territory except the Donbas perhaps and agree to the following:

Pay every single penny to rebuild all the damage inflicted on Ukraine.

Release all Ukrainians transported to Russia

Continual freeze of Oligarchs assets - its money laundering!

Sanctions should not be released though for at least 6/12 months. Putin needs to be seen to have failed and huge consequences inflicted on Russia due to the brutal slaughter of innocent women and kids.

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But in all seriousness.....how could anybody sit down with Putin after this?
For over 20 years he has been all about this......let them talk peace and agree some kind of solution.....but this has surely now been a game changer........Russia, China, India and some smaller states are all marked out now.......could not bring themselves to condemn the butchery and slaughter of innocent people and their homes and infrastructure.
Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran......blood on their hands.
And people really think the dinosaurs went extinct millions of years a go?

Take a close look at world leaders and you can still see that lack intelligence we as a species are suppose to have gained over the period of time.........One thing is striking....there are very few true world leaders around anymore.....a rudderless world......

So true, Dubs, so true.

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But in all seriousness.....how could anybody sit down with Putin after this?
For over 20 years he has been all about this......let them talk peace and agree some kind of solution.....but this has surely now been a game changer........Russia, China, India and some smaller states are all marked out now.......could not bring themselves to condemn the butchery and slaughter of innocent people and their homes and infrastructure.
Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iran......blood on their hands.
And people really think the dinosaurs went extinct millions of years a go?

Take a close look at world leaders and you can still see that lack intelligence we as a species are suppose to have gained over the period of time.........One thing is striking....there are very few true world leaders around anymore.....a rudderless world......

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Very true indeed! China is disgusting and sick too yet they want millions in trade for their cheap tat from the West!

You can now get 88 Russian Rubles to the Pound sterling. In fact the Ruble currency price as climbed in price since the 7th March and is now currently higher than it was before the war! Therefore sanctions aint working

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You can now get 88 Russian Rubles to the Pound sterling. In fact the Ruble currency price as climbed in price since the 7th March and is now currently higher than it was before the war! Therefore sanctions aint working

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Making payments in Roubles for oil/gas deliveries......so market is covering the bets Phil......even though EU has said they will not payment using Roubles....Plus Russia has made bond payments using Roubles recently...so again market is covering positions......I wouldn't wallpaper my back garden shed with Roubles...

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You can now get 88 Russian Rubles to the Pound sterling. In fact the Ruble currency price as climbed in price since the 7th March and is now currently higher than it was before the war! Therefore sanctions aint working

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Not so. There are around 113 Roubles to £. Either you're confusing it with the $ or that a Rouble is £0.0088. All last year there were less than 100. The Rouble has recovered the last few days. A truer statement might be

The Rouble is now worth about the same as it was on Feb 24th when they invaded but is much lower than it was last year before the threat.