God forbid you get the ball forward before playing five sideways passes in your own half. It's only courteous to allow the opposition time to regroup.Quote:
Originally Posted by durhampie
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God forbid you get the ball forward before playing five sideways passes in your own half. It's only courteous to allow the opposition time to regroup.Quote:
Originally Posted by durhampie
After so many passionate words written debating the pros and cons of NA on here, I fully expected us to be well informed of all the goings on with him at Solihull. It started off promising with a fair few post match interviews from Damson Park, and plenty of respect the point comments after Solihull games ended even.Quote:
Originally Posted by queenslandpie
Then he went and spoilt it by doing really well, winning loads of games as his side defied expectations and finished higher than expected before losing in playoff final. Typical Ardley eh? :D. It pretty much went silent from the halfway point onwards. Funny that.
IB ain't going to do anywhere near that well up in the upper echelons of League 1. So I'm gonna suggest we are going to updated regularly from the usual interested sauces.
Your last sentence sums up my feelings perfectly and it's an honest 'best of luck' message. It's pretty much how I feel about all ex-Notts managers. Once they leave Notts it's hard to care too much either way. It's all about Notts and LW baby#COYP
Yeah that stood out for me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by durhampie
I think there is a level of, maybe deliberate, misunderstanding regarding the '5 passes'. If you want players to be comfortable passing the ball, and particularly defenders, then they have to practice passing. I suppose it's a bit like learning a musical instrument. You learn scales. That doesn't mean you only play scales, but to be proficient you have to be able to play them. Defenders need to be able to pass the ball unless all you want them to do is belt it up field. Therefore, they must practice.
That's why he might be suited further up the pyramid, at NL level I think he was expecting too much. Who cares about IB anyway, the way he left having meetings with Dale during the playoffs left a bad taste. Then the 2 failed playoff campaigns, good riddance. I'm looking forward to this next season more than any other since we've been down here, I actually feel LW and RH might be the ones who will get us up. I've more belief than unpassionate IB (yes I don't believe he was much more passionate behind closed doors) and the whisperer MD. COYP
You’d think from reading this board that we’ve just endured a season of mind numbing football. Either some of our fans enjoy seeing a 60yard hoof up the pitch, in the hope something falls for a Jon Stead type, or they have erased countless seasons of awful football from their memories.
I don’t think I’ve ever known a season where we’ve scored so many outstanding team goals.
I understand the criticism, to a point, that we weren’t ruthless enough at times but that has nothing to do with the style of play. That’s about quality and desire in both boxes. We came up short in our own box, and that was the difference. If we had won the league playing exactly the same type of football, I don’t think anyone would criticise our style of play. Results and performance aren’t mutually exclusive but they’re two very different things!
When teams came to ML and sat deep, we moved the ball sideways to draw them in. That’s the only time we ever did it, and it generally worked. It can be frustrating to watch but the frustration should be at the ‘anti-football’ opposition.
I wish IB all the best and will watch his career with interest.
The FGR training vid with the 5 passes before you play it forward, was like giving the dog a bone, to some on here, but as sinophile says, if you are going to play a certain style you need to practice the basics. I doubt for a minute, that it is a hard and fast rule that has to be adhered to every time FGR play out from the back, sometimes it could be more 🤣
The 5 passes or more is obviously to pull the other team out of position to be able to play through the lines into midfield and then into the front. I think though at NL level it was too ambitious. Yes you can play that sometimes but every time is too much at this level, the players in defence don't always have that ability and can panic when pressed. As I said maybe at FGR this will be better suited
If we had been repeatedly caught out playing across the back, and given up goals by doing so I would have agreed, but this wasn't the case. It cannot be set In stone that you play it around at the back to start every move, but if is much better having the ball in your posession than not. Also at this level a longer ball forward to the target man is less likely to be accurate as well, and the ability of the target man makes it more likely he will not keep posession either.
On balance I would rather we tried to play out from the back the majority of times.
Some fair points in defence of the 5 passes clip.