OT Trump's Tariffs

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Originally Posted by Cannylad

As a British radio host over here once said, "As long as you've got a hole in your Rs there will never be peace in the middle east". He was right.
As far as the Trump saga goes I can only say that the U.S. dodged a bullet when Harris lost the election, she made Biden look like Einstein.

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At least she humiliated Trump in the debates, he floundered and was reduced to only being able to answer with insults instead of any rationale

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Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie

Surely though that is the culture of Hamas and not of the ordinary innocent Palestinian

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A Palestinian official came on National TV with a tutorial 3 weeks ago. Easy to find the on you tube searching "how and when to beat your wife"

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

Nothing like a few sweeping generalisations. What about the thousands of women, children and men held in the Israeli dungeons? Without charge?

The calorie restrictions before this line in the sand of 7 Oct?

Plenty of actual Palestinian beheaded babies. That okay because they?re not our friends or a certain ethnic group?

The targeting of Ambulances. Once unequivocal proof of their war crimes emerges the narrative changes. Investigations will be made? a few good men. Do me a favour. Bunch of blood thirsty war criminals.

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Not getting into this but HAMAS is a death cult fully supported by the electorate. Real men don't hide in hospitals and schools behind women abd children but thankfully the Palestinians are waking up and smelling the coffee. Using aid money meant for infrastructure and schools to build tunnels and missiles turned to not he clever eh?

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

Think you?ll find DNA studies point to the Palestinian people having roots in the Levant region including Palestine going back a few thousand years. Now if we did the same for the current bunch of occupiers they?ll be Europeans, Russians, etc. Just because some men decided to carve up a piece of land that was not theirs in the first place doesn?t give it legitimacy.

As for Judea and Samaria? You?re correct. There is no such place as the West Bank. The whole region is called Palestine. Just like it was over a hundred years ago before some artificial state was forced into the region. Europeans messed up and the Palestinians paid.

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The Romans, after crushing the Bar Kokhba revolt (132-135 CE), renamed the region "Syria Palaestina". It only came into being in the 2nd century

Europeans and others of Jewish decent came to be there following the removal of the Jews from their homeland by the Assyrians/Babylonians and Romans. Holy sites are Jewish and undeniably so.

Read your bible/historical records/study the archeology. Jews own this land and have done for thousands of years before.

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Originally Posted by Sclox

Not getting into this but HAMAS is a death cult fully supported by the electorate. Real men don't hide in hospitals and schools behind women abd children but thankfully the Palestinians are waking up and smelling the coffee. Using aid money meant for infrastructure and schools to build tunnels and missiles turned to not he clever eh?

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Not getting into this? Why not? The truth is unpalatable? As far as I can see the real men haven?t been hiding in hospitals. Their leader was killed on the front line. On his own. I see a lot of deviants on the other side cross dressing and using old women to storm buildings.

Even with all the technological superiority the cowards stoop to indiscriminate murder. A genocide.

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Originally Posted by Sclox

The Romans, after crushing the Bar Kokhba revolt (132-135 CE), renamed the region "Syria Palaestina". It only came into being in the 2nd century

Europeans and others of Jewish decent came to be there following the removal of the Jews from their homeland by the Assyrians/Babylonians and Romans. Holy sites are Jewish and undeniably so.

Read your bible/historical records/study the archeology. Jews own this land and have done for thousands of years before.

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They own the land? So who was there a hundred years ago? Where can I find the deeds to the Jews owning the land? The Americans need to hand some land back. So do the Australians on that basis.

Instead of telling me to read/study. Why not enlighten me with your wisdom. Did Israel exist a hundred years ago? What was the piece of land that was ruled by the British called?

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

Not getting into this? Why not? The truth is unpalatable? As far as I can see the real men haven?t been hiding in hospitals. Their leader was killed on the front line. On his own. I see a lot of deviants on the other side cross dressing and using old women to storm buildings.

Even with all the technological superiority the cowards stoop to indiscriminate murder. A genocide.

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We will agree to disagree with "on the front line" killed hiding in a house after being months in tunnels like rats.

Genocide is a different gravy to whats has happened in Gaza. Genocide would have saw hundreds of thousand killed maybe millions as it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. Hiding behind civilians is not a noble way to die.

We shall agree to disagree my friend. I welcome your altetnative, warped view but we will never convince each other.

Why didn't neighbouring Arab countries accept refugees?

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Originally Posted by KSA Mag

They own the land? So who was there a hundred years ago? Where can I find the deeds to the Jews owning the land? The Americans need to hand some land back. So do the Australians on that basis.

Instead of telling me to read/study. Why not enlighten me with your wisdom. Did Israel exist a hundred years ago? What was the piece of land that was ruled by the British called?

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Isreal has had many temporary custodians through history ( Persians, Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Fatimids, Seljuk Turks, Crusaders, Egyptians, Mamelukes, Ottomans Islamists, British Mandate) it is now back with the original owners. Get used to it. The temple mount is the site of the Jewish Temple predating whats there now which incidentally I think if my memory serves was a Byzantine Christian church which the crudely removed stone carvings attest to)

I stand corrected, it wasn't a Byzantine church of course but was a Crusader church but originally built as a 7th century Muslim shrine for pilgrims over the stone Isaac newrly met his end on and on the original site of the 1st Jewish temple.

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Originally Posted by Sclox

We will agree to disagree with "on the front line" killed hiding in a house after being months in tunnels like rats.

Genocide is a different gravy to whats has happened in Gaza. Genocide would have saw hundreds of thousand killed maybe millions as it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel. Hiding behind civilians is not a noble way to die.

We shall agree to disagree my friend. I welcome your altetnative, warped view but we will never convince each other.

Why didn't neighbouring Arab countries accept refugees?

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Front line is pretty black and white to me. I didn?t see them hiding behind civilians unlike the cross dressing invaders?

So if this is not a genocide that would would constitute it being so? Such a lazy argument about numbers. It?s more palatable to western allies for it to be done slowly than to wipe out the population in one go. We?ve seen tens of thousands killed. Likely to be in the hundreds once you find the bodies under the rubble. So we?re on route. Sadly you won?t get your millions in a population under 2 million.

You call my view warped? One based on seeing horrific, indiscriminate killings on a daily basis? People being blown hundreds on meters into the air after the largest bombs know to man are dropped in a region with no army? I?d hate to be in your ?normal? head. I prefer being warped my friend.

Why should neighbouring countries accept the forced displacement of an indigenous people? Why doesn?t the fake entity relocate to Florida or Austria or better still Germany? 1920s and 1940s weren?t a Palestinian issue.