OT Artemis ii

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

Actually had a look and the discovery of the titanic was funded by the US Government

A quick Google also shows lots more in the benefits from space exploration column, a big one being innovation of Solar Powe technologies.

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Yep, okay. I surrender. :D

While you’re on Google compare the amount spent on the space race with finding a cure for some of the diseases mentioned earlier. I’m still not certain we have the balance right but accept there may be an, as yet undiscovered, overlap. That would be nice.

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Yep, okay. I surrender. :D

While you’re on Google compare the amount spent on the space race with finding a cure for some of the diseases mentioned earlier. I’m still not certain we have the balance right but accept there may be an, as yet undiscovered, overlap. That would be nice.

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MRI and CT scans much enhanced from space travel so while it might not be the cure it certainly helps with diagnosis and structure of treatment plans

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Yep, okay. I surrender. :D

While you’re on Google compare the amount spent on the space race with finding a cure for some of the diseases mentioned earlier. I’m still not certain we have the balance right but accept there may be an, as yet undiscovered, overlap. That would be nice.

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This aspect of course assumes that it is good to find a cure for dread diseases. Prolonging life beyond the three score years and ten is perhaps not that great a priority - ask Thomas Malthus. In an already overcrowded and under resourced world is it desirable to prolong lives of people by draining state resources and spending more on research into disease prevention, thus exaggerating the overcrowding and dependency culture.

Bear in mind I pose this question as someone currently undergoing cancer treatment (and grateful for it), but also as someone questioning whether, in a wider sense, it is logical to do so, and in doing so perhaps creating a long term surplus of resource guzzlers. Switzerland anyone? Soylent Green maybe?

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Or, as already suggested, we could just ?deport? Farage, Trump, Putin and the Ayatollahs there and be much better off knowing that space exploration has benefitted human kind after all.

Hope things are looking up for you, GP, but I don?t think you can really compare the funding for the study of English literature with the amount spent on the space race.

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Sadly my limited use of AI cannot put numbers to the comparative costs of each component, but my point still remains that there does not have to be an absolute tangible reward for all spending to be justified. Yes, the space race may not have generated many tangible rewards (although Sith seems to have debunked your view on that in a few short strokes) but then again what tangible rewards come from the studies of literature, theatre, the arts, long dead languages etc etc - yet you - and I - Im sure would still feel that they should from a part of the "human experience". My study of Chaucer at A level was of no value to me whatsoever except as an academic discipline - whereas the study of astronomy and space was both pleasurable and it seems of lasting value to humanity - and dont forget freeze dried raspberrie and space dust.

Come back to me when Henry Fielding is shown to have cured cancer rather than just having written a few satirical stories 250 years ago. Yet he is still studied today and money is spent on preserving a legacy that has no tangible value

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

Sadly my limited use of AI cannot put numbers to the comparative costs of each component, but my point still remains that there does not have to be an absolute tangible reward for all spending to be justified. Yes, the space race may not have generated many tangible rewards (although Sith seems to have debunked your view on that in a few short strokes) but then again what tangible rewards come from the studies of literature, theatre, the arts, long dead languages etc etc - yet you - and I - Im sure would still feel that they should from a part of the "human experience". My study of Chaucer at A level was of no value to me whatsoever except as an academic discipline - whereas the study of astronomy and space was both pleasurable and it seems of lasting value to humanity - and dont forget freeze dried raspberrie and space dust.

Come back to me when Henry Fielding is shown to have cured cancer rather than just having written a few satirical stories 250 years ago. Yet he is still studied today and money is spent on preserving a legacy that has no tangible value

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Hardly likely to have done seeing as he died about 270 years ago, GP.

A seamless take off, hats off to our friends in the US and those incredible minds at NASA. Very impressive showing, praying for a safe return to Houston next week.

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Originally Posted by Ramshank72

A seamless take off, hats off to our friends in the US and those incredible minds at NASA. Very impressive showing, praying for a safe return to Houston next week.

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We mustn't forget that there are large, vytal and significant parts of the hardware and software that originate in Canada, UK and EU.

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Originally Posted by Ramshank72

A seamless take off, hats off to our friends in the US and those incredible minds at NASA. Very impressive showing, praying for a safe return to Houston next week.

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Fantastic stuff although (assumng there wasonly one TV feed used by all outlets, I used CBS,) some of the camerawork and sound at takeoff was a bit poor for us plebs)

A little disturbed to see the meal options include spicy beans. 4 blokes "sitting in a tin can" eating spicy beans doesn't lead to a very comfortable passage in more ways than one.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

A little disturbed to see the meal options include spicy beans. 4 blokes "sitting in a tin can" eating spicy beans doesn't lead to a very comfortable passage in more ways than one.

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Contingency planning, should the primary propulsion method fail.