O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

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Originally Posted by TheBlackHorse

.. Snbhd 2 ... if you think that Boris was involved in the 400k c..k up you really are more dim than even I thought you could be. There seems to be a similarity between the Remoaners and 100% Hindsight Mob - lazy, wanting someone else to take responsibility. So go and live elsewhere ...

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A leader takes responsibility and kicks the arses of the underlings who have let him/her down.

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Originally Posted by seriouspie

I wouldn't reveal your surname Sidney, I once told you that, but if you insist, well O.K., 'cos we can't break the rules can we? I'm Clive by the way, feel free to use it, doesn't worry me one bit. Now your comments on 'Happy' Nadia (never seen her smile at all).

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Alan is strictly for family and friends.

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Originally Posted by sidders

Alan is strictly for family and friends.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgvR3y5JCXg

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Originally Posted by drillerpie

The other day you said we shouldn't criticise the government because we need to keep an open mind until this is all over.

Now you yourself are saying the government has made some really bad calls.

Were you just saying that to be annoying? Or have you genuinely changed your mind?

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Please show me the post where I said don't criticise the government???? You are doing an Elite twisting words to suit.

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Originally Posted by sidders

A leader takes responsibility and kicks the arses of the underlings who have let him/her down.

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How do you know that has not been happening? Or does it have to be a public humiliation for it to have happened?

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Originally Posted by i961pie

Please show me the post where I said don't criticise the government???? You are doing an Elite twisting words to suit.

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While telling other posters (the usual suspects) off for criticising Boris, you said you that you purposely avoided reading articles like the Sunday Times expose, and would wait until the end of the crisis before making any judgements.

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Originally Posted by i961pie

No, I don't read much press because most of the time it is only their opinion or political persuassion, and I will wait to see the scientific evidence at the end of this.
If the government have made terrible mistakes they will face the consequences and deservedly so.
I haven't made my mind up about anything.

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But the crisis isn't over and you have made some criticisms of the government. Based on what information exactly I'm not sure.

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Originally Posted by Notts78

How do you know that has not been happening? Or does it have to be a public humiliation for it to have happened?

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Please study the post from Neddy the Black Horse, which was what I was replying to.

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Originally Posted by drillerpie

While telling other posters (the usual suspects) off for criticising Boris, you said you that you purposely avoided reading articles like the Sunday Times expose, and would wait until the end of the crisis before making any judgements.



But the crisis isn't over and you have made some criticisms of the government. Based on what information exactly I'm not sure.

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The criticisms of the government I have made a few times, one allowing the Cheltenham Festival to go ahead and two allowing 3,000 Spanish fans into the country when Spain was on partial lockdown.
And I haven't told anyone off (as you put it) for criticising Boris I have tried to put an alternative view. Everything isn't black and white like some make out.
Sorry I didn't read your article cos it's obviously upset you.

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Originally Posted by seriouspie

Bang on! They are one and the same. I'll bet not many will be celebrating VE day tomorrow as most will by nature, be 'Conchies' and non patriotic worms. I couldn't agree more ...... simply criticisers in the main who do the talking but never ever take the responsibility when it matters.

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I don’t know why you’ll be celebrating Crusher, by your definition Churchill was a loser in 1945.

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Originally Posted by i961pie

The criticisms of the government I have made a few times, one allowing the Cheltenham Festival to go ahead and two allowing 3,000 Spanish fans into the country when Spain was on partial lockdown.
And I haven't told anyone off (as you put it) for criticising Boris I have tried to put an alternative view. Everything isn't black and white like some make out.
Sorry I didn't read your article cos it's obviously upset you.

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No need to apologise i961, not upset at all. Just trying to figure out where you stand, and it's not easy.

So you have changed your mind about waiting till the end of the crisis before making your mind up then. Fair enough.

Thanks for clarifying your views about Cheltenham and not banning foreign travel. Previously you said that this type of criticism was unfair as the government was just relying on scientific evidence and any other government would've done the same. Have you changed your mind?