I shouldnt but I find it astonishing how non existent the standards that are applied to that bloke. Not just in the way he never does the jobs that hes been elected to but in the piss poor level of detail in his so called policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
No income tax on anything under 20 grand. With no further info on how that revenue will be replaced. Can you imagine if Corbyn had come up with that?
Thanks I had read that but was still wondering what the benefits were against the costs and EU rules that will apply and the article didn?t really cover that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFatPie
Thank you for excepting your previous statement was wrong and it is not unlimited, it is possibly/ probably going to be easier in the future.
My view is slightly different and Brexit is the future with us not tied to a corrupt and failing EU.
All views are valid though.
Except we dont know what your views on this deal are because youve chosen to nitpick about e-gates instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardmagpie
Do you agree with;
Asda
V Morrisons
V M&S
* Octopus Energy
* Salmon Scotland
* BAE Systems
* Vodafone
V Dairy UK
? British Retail Consortium
V Ryanair
* Guide Dogs Campaigns
* Federation of Small Businesses
* Confederation of British Industry
V UK Hospitality The Food and
Drink Federation
V British Poultry Council
* Babcock International Group
* British Meat Processors Association
* British Chamber of Commerce
that its generally a good thing or do you go with the apparently *equally valid* views of those who dont?
This is where you say I nitpick when you brought up the E gates BFP. You were wrong in what you said but like Labour it doesn?t matter what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFatPie
An impressive list of 18 - you think Brexit was a mistake I think it will be very positive so I don?t think we will ever agree. There will be some positive things from this deal and probably some negative things as well so we shall wait and see how it goes when the actual deal is agreed.
Do you have a similar list for the India and USA great trade deals.
They appear to be more spin than substance from a focus group led PM
Good to see that Starmer has finally accepted that the cuts in winter fuel payments to pensioners went too far, and is doing a U-turn. I hope he gets the balance right this time, which won't include me.
In other news, it seems Mr Yaxley-Lennon has been active again:
Far-right activist Tommy Robinson, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, has been charged with harassment causing fear of violence against two men in August last year, the Crown Prosecution Service has said. "We have authorised the Metropolitan Police to charge Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, 42, with harassment causing fear of violence against two men," a CPS spokesperson said. "The Crown Prosecution Service reminds all concerned that criminal proceedings against the defendant are active and that he has the right to a fair trial."
The 42-year-old from Luton will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court on 5 June 2025.
Farage as PM with Tommy Robinson as deputy anyone?
A characteristic non answer from a bloke who demands details from others but then makes sweeping platitudes about a *failing and corrupt* EU without offering up any evidence to back it up. What do you think there is to be positive about Brexit?Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardmagpie
You brought up the Indian and US trade deals, maybe youd like to tell us your detailed thoughts on them? Do they make our trading position worse or better? Why didnt the people who promised us lots of easy trade deals before the referendum manage to agree any?
When? Brexit has clearly been a disaster so far so when will it be "very positive"? We were promised the 'sunlit uplands' as soon as we left. I'm sure you'll recognise these iconic lyrics:Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardmagpie
When you say it's gonna happen now
Well, when exactly do you mean?
See, I've already waited too long
And all my hope is gone
Not sure quoting Morrissey helps your case but great lyricsQuote:
Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
Didn't really answer my question. So How Soon Is Now?Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardmagpie
I don?t demand anything BFB.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFatPie
I believe that we will be better off out a failing, bloated and corrupt EU. You disagree and think the EU is fine - how should we debate this BFP
I asked (not demanded) a question about those trade deals and to quote ? you gave a characteristic non answer? just asking a question yourself.
My reading of the trade deals is that depending who you listen too and who you read and what inherent political bias you have they are either all smoke and mirrors with no substance or will be tremendous boost to the economy.
I hope for second but not sure it isn?t the first.
The EU deal isn?t a deal yet but I don?t believe the EU will or want to give us a good deal.
My view BFP