RIP Tony Benn - I never really was a huge fan for his leftist views, but he sincerely felt that people's rights shouldn't be trampled. Gotta admire him for that.
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RIP Tony Benn - I never really was a huge fan for his leftist views, but he sincerely felt that people's rights shouldn't be trampled. Gotta admire him for that.
Dam and EP - I respect your rights not to vote, but think of it in another way. If we all boycott polls because we are fed up with those in power, the end result is they will remain power because the ones who don't want them are not turning up. In the first past the post system, all that matters is that they get the most votes.
If you don't like Tory, your boycott could ensure they are returned to power.
Sometimes voting has to be tactical, you don't always have to vote for someone, you can sometimes vote against someone.
More mines were closed under a Labour government than any other political party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
Same goes for the mass closure of the railways following the Beeching report.
Sad but True!
Did things that made sense???? Not to any normal person with an ounce of compassion. Regarding the mining industry, I honestly don't know if coal was a viable option or not, but what she did was inhumane. So determined to defeat Scargill, she used the police force as a private army and happily consigned whole communities of hard working people to the scrapheap. If the mines had to close it should have been gradual and phased, with regeneration of new industry in those areas implemented. Because they were unlikely to vote for her, she just happily left them t
Id like to vote for someone that doesn't come from money and didn't go to a private school. Not one of those toffs represent me.
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Originally Posted by Romanis
It doesn't matter if you like them or not, whoever gets it in all you will get is Welfare Capitalism and it's been the same all over the Western World for the past fifty years.Blair was far more right than Thatcher and it was he who snuggled up to Murdoch as all of them did. The only real outstanding socialist government has been Labour in the Conservative/Labour coalition in World War 2 who performed some real
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Originally Posted by Elite_Pie" you pick and choose your arguments, where is your 1979 reference?[/quote]
What??? I'm not picking and choosing my arguments, merely quoting facts. If you want a 1979 reference here it is - she got 43.9% of those who voted, and 33.4% of the total electorate. You were the one who quoted 60% - I'll ask you yet again what does that 60% refer to? Instead of hiding and evading you could give me an honest answer.
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Are you really that stupid? The best figure she managed was 43.9% of the voters in 1979, and only a third of those who could vote. It may have been more than the others, but only a complete moron would claim that a figure well below 50% constitutes a majority!
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Originally Posted by 45red
Completely, totally wrong. If 3 people are in business together, one has a 40% share and the other 2 have 30% each, the one with 40% is NOT in the majority. He is the major shareholder but could be outvoted by the other two because together they are the MAJORITY. Thatcher and the Tories had an overall majority in terms of seats won, but they never had a majority among voters. And that's clearly what you implied with the post I questioned:
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Originally Posted by 45red
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Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
Completely, totally wrong. If 3 people are in business together, one has a 40% share and the other 2 have 30% each, the one with 40% is NOT in the majority. He is the major shareholder but could be outvoted by the other two because together they are the MAJORITY. Thatcher and the Tories had an overall majority in terms of seats won, but they never had a majority among voters. And that's clearly what you implied with the post I questioned:
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Originally Posted by 45red
you know exacly what i meant, you just prefer to act the big boy.
Bore off EP you are a sad man/woman
Yep, you meant 60% of UK inhabitants backed Thatcher. I proved that to be a lie.
It's not my fault if you choose to type stupid things, I'm afraid that's down to you.
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Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
You hate the Tories, yet support the Tory Party Loony Faction? You say "I hate all politicians, greedy, scum bag gravy train robbers.