Correct,but you will very rarely hear the victim use the "racist" card,unlike the abuser trying to get off with something.
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Correct,but you will very rarely hear the victim use the "racist" card,unlike the abuser trying to get off with something.
Any port in a storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
They are your interpretations and they were right at the beginning. Christianity(ie those who believe in the teachings of Christ) moved on. Islam post-dates Christianity and reverted back.Quote:
Originally Posted by sevens_a_secret
Sorry to hear you are confused about right and wrong. Many Islamic countries on the whole simply have a different accepted way of treating women that does not fit in the Western world, however decadent you think we may be.Quote:
No, there is something else going on here. Perhaps a culture that allows young girls to wear Playboy merchandise and whose models don't get work unless they resemble pre-pubescent ****agers might need to look at itself?. The Sun newspaper has only just stopped having topless 16 year olds on page 3.
Mixed messages and all that.
old testament - irrelevantQuote:
Originally Posted by sevens_a_secret
Give over EP I'm joking with Sid, he had a hissy fit the other day cos I ridiculed the Guardian with Joe;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
It's not a dream, it's just the reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
"Failures of leadership" is not the same thing as a systematic cover up. As I recall one of the reasons police officers and social workers gave for not acting was that these girls were sl uts who had got themselves into trouble.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
"The police response to abused and vulnerable girls, gang-raped and terrorised by violent threats, was characterised by a disgusting prejudice towards white, working-class girls. Far from being treated with support and sensitivity, police officers treated them as sl uts and criminals, working on the perverse assumption that children as young as 11 could have consensual *** with groups of men three times their age.
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"Race played a role in what happened in Rotherham, but class played a significant part in the minds of those adults who chose to ignore the stories of these young girls. In a different place – in a different class – this simply would not have happened because the assumptions and prejudices that led to deafness and neglect would not have been in play. Britain's noxious class divide played its part in casting these girls aside."
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...buse-rotherham
It's that culture thing again...
Point 1 - It's not quite the "reality" because the British people called a halt to the bit they were offered a vote on ie Brexit. It came as a shock to the Powers in Control, because the issue of uncontrolled immigration crossed the party divide....ordinary people said is "enough is enough".Quote:
Originally Posted by sevens_a_secret
Whether we ever get immigration down to "the 10s of thousands" is another matter......unfortunately this whole issue is a bit like the Dutch lad with his finger stuck in a Dyke, the flotsam and jetsam keeps getting higher on the other side, threatening to flood a once-great Nation.
Point 2 - You are now arguing semantics and opinion....I say there was a cover-up dating back to 2005 (with a Guardian piece on the damning report), you say No, it is a failure of the Police and Councils.
Well maybe I just see things differently to you.....if I open my fridge and there's an item on a plate that looks remarkably like Halibut, stinks like the inside of a whore's crotch and still has one glazed eye staring at me....it ain't a t-bone steak no matter how much we argue about it.
Newcastle now gets added to the growing list of towns and cities plagued by this filth, almost 300 convictions now and thousands of white ****agers abused........yet you say I am over-reacting?
So I'll ask you, Sevens, at what point do you think that this is a serious problem that needs a serious answer/solution and at what point would you consider this an epidemic?
The vote was on whether to leave the EU or not. There were many different reasons the quitters voted how they did. Reasons for voting one way or another were not recorded.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
So all foreigners are "flotsam and jetsam"?Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
You are lucky that the good people of Mexico don't think the same. Always struck me as more than ironic that you have such anti-immigrant views when you are one. Hypocritical even.
The Guardian piece you posted begins, "Blatant failures of political and police leadership contributed to the ***ual exploitation of 1,400 children in Rotherham over a 16-year period", so I'm clearly not the only one who thinks so. Might help you if you read the links you post in support of your view?Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
There is clearly a problem with organised peadophile and *** trafficking gangs, but it's not restricted to one ethnic group. Just considering those commited by people with browner faces than mine is not helpful. If a solution is to be found, it's important to consider all causative factors rather than simply nurse one's personal prejudices.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
Oh I love this stance of hypocrisy, That You're an immigrant.
No one has said anything here, that immigration is wrong and vile.
Yet if you get the chance to settle in another land, there is two things you must do.
1. Respect and follow the laws and traditions of that country
2. Contribute and not be a drain on the economics of it.
Do these filth do that?
I don't believe Tarkers breaks either.
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Originally Posted by sevens_a_secret
OK, my drinking/drunk Magpie jousting partner....... Round 6 is it now?
Point 1 - Brexit was offered because of the rise of the UKIP vote, and St Nigel led one half of the Brexit campaign.....UKIPs three main policies were Immigration, foreigners and flotsam/jetsam.
Admittedly they threw in a few extra policies just to look like a "proper" Political Party, but most people liked the look of the first three policies and decided "that'll do for me"
Point 2 - Yawn......standard playground insults that gets pretty boring after the 500th time on here.
There are many possible reasons for my current absence from the UK, I might have made a rather large investment here that needs my attention, I might be intoxicated by the local Chicas, It might be on Doctor's advice (minimum of 5,000 feet above sea level, palm trees and cheap beer)....or it might be a mix of all three....it is NOT because I am fleeing from a rat-infested, flea-ridden part of the world where life is cheap, benefits non-existent and medical attention consists of drinking camel's urine mixed with bat droppings and the blood of a virgin.
If any UK immigrants would like to invest the amount of money that I've done here, not use the NHS or claim any benefits....then I'm sure the UK authorities will roll out the red carpet for them, I'll even help unroll the carpet.
Point 3 - You are repeating yourself again....so shall I.
"Blatant failures of political and police leadership" as quoted in the Guardian (which I did read, thank you).....is political jargon for a cover-up IMO
You might disagree with me, fair enough....it is a forum after all.
Point 4 - I never said it was restricted to one ethnic group......if you read my 2nd or 3rd post, I quoted both Muslim and non-Muslim conviction figures with an explanation at the bottom, so you appear to be guilty of the thing you accused me of, not reading the full article, tut tut.
I then used those figures to show that despite being only 5% of the UK population, Muslim Grooming Gangs were committing 85% of the known rapes.
Obviously those figures must seem OK to you, because you've spent the last few days defending them....I guess it takes all sorts
Your last statement is clever waffle for "I ain't got a clue how to solve it".....neither have I....I guess we finally found something in common.