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Originally Posted by Shuntz

I think we should abolish Cooncil tax and replace it with a windfall tax on online gambling or people who live in stately homes on the Scottish Islands...............,,,,,,,,,,,.

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Your getting me all nostalgic for the poll tax❤

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Originally Posted by Shuntz

I think we should abolish Cooncil tax and replace it with a windfall tax on online gambling or people who live in stately homes on the Scottish Islands...............,,,,,,,,,,,.

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That rules me out then as I do not have a stately home living on Islay.
All the estates on Islay are owned by people who live outwith Scotland.
If Scotland became an independent country and wee Nippy tried to nationalise these estates they would go to wrack and ruin.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Your getting me all nostalgic for the poll tax❤

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There was nothing wrong with the poll tax. It was the people who had never paid rates that complained bitterly about having to pay for something that they previously got for nothing.

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Originally Posted by Shuntz

Hi John
Interesting point you make and assume you mean Income Tax.

Here are Delotties figures for tax year 2019 /20

The lower earner
£15,000 salary
If you earn a salary of £15,000 in 2019/20 and have no other income, the personal allowance of £12,500 will be deducted and £2,500 will be taxable.
If you are resident in Scotland, your income tax calculation will be as follows;
Scottish starter rate - £2,049 at 19%= £389.31
Scottish basic rate - £451 at 20% = £90.20
Total tax = £479.51

This is a decrease of £130.49 compared to 2018/19 due to the increase in the personal allowance (decided by the UK government ) from £11,850 to £12,500 and an increase in the starter rate band.
If you earned the same sum of money but were not resident in Scotland the full £2,500 would be taxable at 20% ( UK basic rate) producing an income tax bill of £500. Therefore, you would pay £20.49 less as a resident of Scotland..............

£33,000 salary

If you earn a salary of £33,000 in 2019/20 and have no other income, the personal allowance of £12,500 will be deducted and £20,500 will be taxable. If you are resident in Scotland your income tax will be as follows:
Scottish starter rate - £2,049 at 19% = £389.31

Scottish basic rate - £10,395 at 20% = £2,079
Scottish intermediate rate - £8,056 at 21% = £1,691.76
Tax total = £4,160.07
If you were resident elsewhere in the UK, the full £20,500 would be taxable at 20%, giving an income tax liability of £4,100. A Scottish resident would pay an additional £60.07 in income tax compared with living elsewhere in the UK.

For me in my position I think 33k is a good salary you are not well off but it’s about 8k higher the the Uk average.

if you are earning 33k per year you pay £5 per more in tax Scotland

For that 5 Scottish pounds extra the person would get
Free prescriptions
Free eye tests
Free personal care for there parents and grand parents
Free tuition fees for your kids
And of course you get to live and work in the best country in the world

Now I would say that the list above is worth a fiver a month but of course some would like to have that extra fiver - each to your own m8

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Trust you to be selective with your quotes.
It has recently been stated that anyone earning over £26,000 per year in Scotland will pay more income tax than someone earning the same salary throughout the rest of the UK.
The amount of income tax received by the Scottish Government in the last tax year was lower than projected no doubt due to these stupid tax rules which favours the poor and discriminates against middle and higher earners.
No wonder the Scottish Government cannot persuade teachers to relocate from south of the border to teach in Scotland when they are going to pay more tax than they would remaining south of the border.
How is an independent Scotland going to balance the books when the £29 Billion from the Barnett Formula and Barnett Consequentials end.
They could always do the old Labour trick of printing more money which in this case would be the Scottish groat.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

There was nothing wrong with the poll tax. It was the people who had never paid rates that complained bitterly about having to pay for something that they previously got for nothing.

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Correct.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

How is an independent Scotland going to balance the books when the £29 Billion from the Barnett Formula and Barnett Consequentials end.

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By keeping the money it currently uses to subsidise the UK economy and the corrupt English government?

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

By keeping the money it currently uses to subsidise the UK economy and the corrupt English government?

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English govt?.....when did they get a devolved parliment?

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Originally Posted by Shuntz

Hi John
Interesting point you make and assume you mean Income Tax.

Here are Delotties figures for tax year 2019 /20

The lower earner
£15,000 salary
If you earn a salary of £15,000 in 2019/20 and have no other income, the personal allowance of £12,500 will be deducted and £2,500 will be taxable.
If you are resident in Scotland, your income tax calculation will be as follows;
Scottish starter rate - £2,049 at 19%= £389.31
Scottish basic rate - £451 at 20% = £90.20
Total tax = £479.51

This is a decrease of £130.49 compared to 2018/19 due to the increase in the personal allowance (decided by the UK government ) from £11,850 to £12,500 and an increase in the starter rate band.
If you earned the same sum of money but were not resident in Scotland the full £2,500 would be taxable at 20% ( UK basic rate) producing an income tax bill of £500. Therefore, you would pay £20.49 less as a resident of Scotland..............

£33,000 salary

If you earn a salary of £33,000 in 2019/20 and have no other income, the personal allowance of £12,500 will be deducted and £20,500 will be taxable. If you are resident in Scotland your income tax will be as follows:
Scottish starter rate - £2,049 at 19% = £389.31

Scottish basic rate - £10,395 at 20% = £2,079
Scottish intermediate rate - £8,056 at 21% = £1,691.76
Tax total = £4,160.07
If you were resident elsewhere in the UK, the full £20,500 would be taxable at 20%, giving an income tax liability of £4,100. A Scottish resident would pay an additional £60.07 in income tax compared with living elsewhere in the UK.

For me in my position I think 33k is a good salary you are not well off but it’s about 8k higher the the Uk average.

if you are earning 33k per year you pay £5 per more in tax Scotland

For that 5 Scottish pounds extra the person would get
Free prescriptions
Free eye tests
Free personal care for there parents and grand parents
Free tuition fees for your kids
And of course you get to live and work in the best country in the world

Now I would say that the list above is worth a fiver a month but of course some would like to have that extra fiver - each to your own m8

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Your spot in with calculations, myself and everyone on my shift was hit with the tax bill for just under £60, even though I do the same job as my English/ welsh/ nth Irish colleagues, you point out the free prescription”s etc but I was already getting these before the SNP put up my tax

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

English govt?.....when did they get a devolved parliment?

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We're ruled by England. England voted for the scumbag Tories and England voted for the disastrous Brexit.

England speaks, Scotland says **** all.

For the record I consider Wales to be part of England.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

We're ruled by England. England voted for the scumbag Tories and England voted for the disastrous Brexit.

England speaks, Scotland says **** all.

For the record I consider Wales to be part of England.

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4 very similar countries, sharing a small land area with a common parliment.....hardly ruled by England.

England has voted Tory 3 out of the last 5 elections and went against the majority of the Tory party during the referendum.

Brexit can't really be judged for 20 or 30 years.

I consider Scotland to be part of the UK.