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Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror

We were defensively sound under TC which was a very positive impact. Ross Graham was a revelation.

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How much of that was down to Courts? He inherited some decent defenders and a keeper that turned a fair few draws or losses into wins.

Sorry mate, the reference was to Tony Watt, not Shankland.

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Originally Posted by stokearab

There's a lot of fans of other clubs and some of ours who think Shankland isn't Premiership standard. I don't go along with that. In Mellons side that played awful survival at any costs football there was no quality midfield or wide service creating chances for him on a regular basis. He got frustrated, his head went down a wee bit and passed up a few opportunities which he would normally put away. To me that's not a lack of quality, it's his mind not being 100% right. His body language in several games told us he wasn't enjoying life in that side and wanted out. But I think wherever he ends up he will get goals if given the right service.

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See my last post.

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Originally Posted by spikeontheright

How much of that was down to Courts? He inherited some decent defenders and a keeper that turned a fair few draws or losses into wins.

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What you are saying here sounds a bit like giving TC credit for anything bad but not for anything good.

He was in charge of the team at the time. If you were to ask Dunfermline fans about Graham at the point he came back to us from the loan they would have told you he is utter ****e. Instead TC had him playing and he turns out to be one of the best defenders in the league.

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Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror

What you are saying here sounds a bit like giving TC credit for anything bad but not for anything good.

He was in charge of the team at the time. If you were to ask Dunfermline fans about Graham at the point he came back to us from the loan they would have told you he is utter ****e. Instead TC had him playing and he turns out to be one of the best defenders in the league.

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Obviously I didn't see anything that went on Monday to Friday at the club but from what I saw on match days, Courts did little or nothing to influence a game.

In his press conferences he talked the biggest load of sh1te I think I've ever heard from a manager. He must have thought our heads were zipped up the back with some of the comments he made after games.

That is what I'm basing my judgement of him on.

In the end, it doesn't matter, we've got a new manager and I'm very optimistic that he'll be a major upgrade to the last one.

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Originally Posted by stokearab

There's a lot of fans of other clubs and some of ours who think Shankland isn't Premiership standard. I don't go along with that. In Mellons side that played awful survival at any costs football there was no quality midfield or wide service creating chances for him on a regular basis. He got frustrated, his head went down a wee bit and passed up a few opportunities which he would normally put away. To me that's not a lack of quality, it's his mind not being 100% right. His body language in several games told us he wasn't enjoying life in that side and wanted out. But I think wherever he ends up he will get goals if given the right service.

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While your post was in reply about the wrong person, its relevance to our teams position of Striker cannot ever be in doubt. No matter if its about Shankland, Watt or even Clark, the strikers joab is to put the ball in the back of the net, and that he cannot do if the delivery is poor or downright non existent! That also goes for having said strikers play a role to help the team!

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Originally Posted by spikeontheright

Obviously I didn't see anything that went on Monday to Friday at the club but from what I saw on match days, Courts did little or nothing to influence a game.

In his press conferences he talked the biggest load of sh1te I think I've ever heard from a manager. He must have thought our heads were zipped up the back with some of the comments he made after games.

That is what I'm basing my judgement of him on.

In the end, it doesn't matter, we've got a new manager and I'm very optimistic that he'll be a major upgrade to the last one.

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Personally I prefer to judge a United gaffer on results. 🙂

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Originally Posted by Chick A Saw

While your post was in reply about the wrong person, its relevance to our teams position of Striker cannot ever be in doubt. No matter if its about Shankland, Watt or even Clark, the strikers joab is to put the ball in the back of the net, and that he cannot do if the delivery is poor or downright non existent! That also goes for having said strikers play a role to help the team!

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Indeed. Our attacking problem last season was we created very little for the strikers.

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Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror

We were defensively sound under TC which was a very positive impact. Ross Graham was a revelation.

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But we have just lost Benji.

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Originally Posted by ROMA84

But we have just lost Benji.

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I didn't rate him as highly as others, prone to major clangers.Hope we can do better. Sure, he got us points sometimes but he lost them for us too.