Negativity goes too far

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Originally Posted by uysapie

As a dinosaur, I avoid all social media. Seems easier that way.

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Aren’t we using social media now?

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Originally Posted by 1955pie

Aren’t we using social media now?

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We certainly are. Anyone listen to Magpie Circle last night? Stallard said that booing, jeering and general moaning from the crowd are all part and parcel of football and should be like ''water off a duck's back'' to pro footballers. As for social media, I would defend anyone's right to join in if they wish, but be warned, there are plenty of numpties out there and if you're a reasonably high profile person, you're gonna attract their attention.

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Originally Posted by countygump

We certainly are. Anyone listen to Magpie Circle last night? Stallard said that booing, jeering and general moaning from the crowd are all part and parcel of football and should be like ''water off a duck's back'' to pro footballers. As for social media, I would defend anyone's right to join in if they wish, but be warned, there are plenty of numpties out there and if you're a reasonably high profile person, you're gonna attract their attention.

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Stallard is correct. Should fans boo? Probably not but if that's how they're feeling then it is what it is. Abuse on social media is inevitable these days and imo players should remove themselves from the problem and concentrate on their job.

Not a good look from the fans or the players.

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Originally Posted by countygump

We certainly are. Anyone listen to Magpie Circle last night? Stallard said that booing, jeering and general moaning from the crowd are all part and parcel of football and should be like ''water off a duck's back'' to pro footballers. As for social media, I would defend anyone's right to join in if they wish, but be warned, there are plenty of numpties out there and if you're a reasonably high profile person, you're gonna attract their attention.

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I wonder which numpty PM was referring to on site.

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Originally Posted by forwardmagpie

Why does a footballer need to be on Twitter?

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I agree with this. Personally I wouldn't want the distraction and would focus 100% on the football.

Back in the day, footballers would come into contact with fans more often in pubs, clubs, shops etc. and must have got some grief at times, especially from Fword fans who recognised them. They'd have to be professional in dealing with it. One example of somebody not being professional in those circumstances would be Rachid Harkouk in McDonalds 1986.

JOB should have ignored it or replied with something like "You're entitled to your opinion, wasn't my best game but 2-2 is not a bad result against a v good side". Maybe they've had previous exchanges, but if not then I'd say that was an unprofessional response from him and I think it reflects poorly on the club if they haven't schooled the players into how they expect them to deal with fans on Social media.

... or, how about ... '... thank you for your comment/viewpoint/opinion, so what I'll do, when I'm ready, is remember what you said and do/behave accordingly. Thanks again ...' ...

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

Why should high profile people avoid social media because some people are complete scum with nothing better to do? That’s like saying women shouldn’t go to bars/clubs because there’s men that might spike their drink.
As a society we should not accept it and work on weeding the scum out rather than have the attitude of ‘what did you expect’ to the recipient of the abuse.
In regards to the booing, it was embarrassing on Saturday. A group in front of me in the Kop booed at half time, booed after the second goal and hurled abuse at the players for about 5 minutes, then celebrated like we’d won the league.
Don’t get me wrong, I was as unhappy as anyone and can’t say I was happy after the game, but booing adds nothing. It drains the players of confidence and compounds an already inept performance.

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It's not saying that at all but I appreciate your point of view. Social media allows anyone to hide behind a screen and say / do what they want. It then feeds advertising revenue for massive companies who then basically have little to no regulation to do what they want and in many instances pay no tax! I am not saying we should accept it in fact quite the opposite, I am saying that if it isn't used then it defeats the business model and then it will force change. I can't comment on the booing obviously. There will always be dickheads. That's life. Just like there will always be people who try and spike womens drinks in pubs ( and believe me I have 3 daughters it scares me to death). I've seen one of my own kids bulled to the point of significant self harm to herself on social media and believe me I dislike it intensely and for good reason. It's evil it allows people to hide and cause great harm and the only way it will be changed is if the revenue model is defeated by significant regulation or people moving away from it. I say this with considerably informed opinion having seen what it does to young people. I totally advocate change but the way to achieve it has to start with financially harming the social media companies business model with hugely negative financial outcomes for them and forcing them to police their platforms properly - or people walk away or can't use it. That needs to be worked out and implemented by someone far smarter than me.

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Originally Posted by Old_pie

Because many don't seem to understand it, otherwise they wouldn't react the way they do when comments are less than complimentary. And you can be on social media (I suspect most) and only allow real people you know comment and message, so if that setting is not used then again there is a lack of understanding.



Two comments to that:

1) Spiking is assault, physical assault, not virtual world stuff. It is a crime.

2) Any woman who goes to (certain) bars/clubs needs to be aware of the realities. It's like the guy who crossed the road with the pedestrian lights on green and a car missed seeing the red so he got knocked over and killed. When he got to heaven he said "but I was right!", and St Peter replied, "Indeed, dead right".
PS I always look, whether driving or walking, regardless. A traffic light is not a brick wall safety fence.

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Of course they understand it. They just sometimes react to the scum, which is perfectly understandable. Just because someone is in the public eye, it doesn’t make them machines. They are as thin skinned and emotional as the rest of us. And when that abuse comes as a result of that person doing what they’ve trained their whole lives to do, whether it be sport/music etc then I’m not surprised that it sometimes gets a reaction.
A few weeks ago a poster on here started writing abuse towards others. In that instance I’m sure nobody gave a cr@p but if they did, would you blame them for being on this platform in the first place?

To cover your points 1&2.
I’m not suggesting in any scenario people should be naive to risks. I’m saying that when you’re the victim of it, in whatever capacity, our default shouldn’t be ‘what did you expect.’

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Originally Posted by kill_the_drum

Just because someone is in the public eye, it doesn’t make them machines. They are as thin skinned and emotional as the rest of us. And when that abuse comes as a result of that person doing what they’ve trained their whole lives to do, whether it be sport/music etc then I’m not surprised that it sometimes gets a reaction.

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Yeah, good point. In fact, some people who seek fame/stardom/success are doing so to fill a void in their lives, so they are especially thin-skinned and emotionally vulnerable.

I have to say, I think elements of the media play a significant role in encouraging people to see celebrities and sports stars as cartoon characters who are there to be shot at and somehow can't be hurt, and that by being in a high profile role these people somehow forego any right to privacy or a personal life. This was the case even before social media became part of our lives, but it has made the situation far worse.