Good Luck Gunt

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Originally Posted by ramAnag

Gunterry...your reference to it not being a nice ‘prospect’ to play against Wednesday’s ‘ten foot blacks’ was uncalled for at best and racist at worst.
GP called you out on it. He’s no ‘snowflake’ (as you might term it) by any stretch of anyone’s imagination, and Diane Abbott is irrelevant to what you said. Your comment belongs to a time when idiots turned up at football grounds to chuck bananas, and abuse, at black players. There’s no place for it, on here or anywhere else.

P.S. Think it was Bill Shankly who described football as ‘more than just a matter of life and death’. I agree with you, he was a ‘wise man’ and an all time great manager...but on that occasion he was, imo, completely wrong.

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I was merely replying to Sith's comment. If you read my post carefully, Dianne Abbot was simply an example of the point I was making. She would have had much more media coverage of her deeply held racist remarks were she white.

We both know it was Bill Shankly who used that dumb statement. I was just adding a little levity to my post.

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

I was merely replying to Sith's comment. If you read my post carefully, Dianne Abbot was simply an example of the point I was making. She would have had much more media coverage of her deeply held racist remarks were she white.

We both know it was Bill Shankly who used that dumb statement. I was just adding a little levity to my post.

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One thing Diane Abbott has never suffered from is a lack of media coverage...much of it negative...but you really can’t hide your own, imo offensive, comment behind her sillier ill thought through ones.

‘A little levity’/ ‘dumb statement’...sorry...you’ve defended it twice. Football is obviously important to us all...but there are at least three contributors on here who’ve experienced life threatening illness. I’ve been there too with my eldest son. We converse regularly across continents about results and during matches and my favourite comment, when things aren’t going right, is ‘oh well...only football’. We both know exactly what I mean and it’s just a question of keeping things in perspective.
You lost...get over it...only football and you’ll have a club to watch all over again when August comes around. This time last year we couldn’t even say that.

Hopefully, we'll leave it at that. Other than please don't bring health into it. You've no idea.

I agree, 'whataboutery' is never a defence, but to be fair its used regularly, normally more in politics threads.

I do think we should lay off Gunt now and draw a line under it, for one i dont think he meant it as racist it was just a poor choice of words.

I dont see an issue with bringing health into it, if having had a serious illness gives you a different perspective. Personally being in that boat it has more since i first fell ill, i do think football, while important to me, is just a part of my life and to be honest i really dont care what league i follow Derby in, for me its the time i spend with my Dad thats more important, and as hes 85 this year im not oblivious to the fact that there are a lot more games behind us than there are in front, im well aware each season could be our last. I really want, if we do get promoted, us to go up autos because i know going to Wembley is too big a day out now for him.

Yeah you let decisions annoy you of course you do, but i tend to get over them more quickly these days, although i might never get over Bobby Madeleys decision to send Chris Martin off but there you go ha.

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Originally Posted by GUNTERYY36

Hopefully, we'll leave it at that. Other than please don't bring health into it. You've no idea.

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I apologise if I’ve unintentionally touched a nerve. Tbf it wasn’t me who introduced the Shankly quote but, as Sith suggests, we all need to keep a sense of perspective and I wish you well and good health.
I’m sure, so long as you keep Duff, Barnsley, like us, will be one of the stronger L1 sides next season.

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

I agree, 'whataboutery' is never a defence, but to be fair its used regularly, normally more in politics threads.

I do think we should lay off Gunt now and draw a line under it, for one i dont think he meant it as racist it was just a poor choice of words.

I dont see an issue with bringing health into it, if having had a serious illness gives you a different perspective. Personally being in that boat it has more since i first fell ill, i do think football, while important to me, is just a part of my life and to be honest i really dont care what league i follow Derby in, for me its the time i spend with my Dad thats more important, and as hes 85 this year im not oblivious to the fact that there are a lot more games behind us than there are in front, im well aware each season could be our last. I really want, if we do get promoted, us to go up autos because i know going to Wembley is too big a day out now for him.

Yeah you let decisions annoy you of course you do, but i tend to get over them more quickly these days, although i might never get over Bobby Madeleys decision to send Chris Martin off but there you go ha.

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Point taken, Sith, but bear in mind sometimes it's not so much which is more important, ill health or football. Sometimes people find it cathartic to deal with major health problems by discussing football.

And ram Duff will be off like a shot to a club that pays him more money, possibly Huddersfield who only took on Warnock to save their skins.

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Point taken, Sith, but bear in mind sometimes it's not so much which is more important, ill health or football. Sometimes people find it cathartic to deal with major health problems by discussing football.

And ram Duff will be off like a shot to a club that pays him more money, possibly Huddersfield who only took on Warnock to save their skins.

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I was fighting cancer under Fawaz's reign It certainly didn't take my mind off it, XD

Right sickly bunch aren't we

To add grist to the mill: my younger brother died in April. That put the Rams defeat at Hillsborough shortly thereafter into perspective - I just shrugged and thought there is more to life than kicking a ball around. Annoying, yes but more important than life or death, erm no.

I think we all deal with serious health problems in our own way, clearly family and close friends were top of my list and that's probably the case for most of us. However, I did find watching, following and chatting about DCFC did help especially at those low moments when it really 'gets you'!
When I was told two years, maybe more if the treatment worked, then, for me, all outlets were eagerly grasped. When some of that time involved 3 months of chemo followed by surgery and then 38 whacks of radiotherapy even watching England at cricket seemed readily acceptable.
For others it could be other pastimes but anything that gives the mind a release should not be sniffed at. 8 years later and further surgery the Grim Reaper is ever present bht now it's the cricket that'll shut him up!