Quite possibly. That is how democracy works. It doesn't mean the EU is undemocratic because you don't like their decisions just that you have different views. But you can't change that by leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by i961pie
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Quite possibly. That is how democracy works. It doesn't mean the EU is undemocratic because you don't like their decisions just that you have different views. But you can't change that by leaving.Quote:
Originally Posted by i961pie
Of course the EU is undemocratic.
There are four key institutions of the EU: the European Commission, European Parliament, European Council and the Court of Justice of the EU. Each institution supposedly represents separate interests. The Commission represents the EU, the Parliament represents the people, the Council represents the Governments of each Member State and the Court interprets the law. However, these institutions do not do this in practice, as they all represent large multinationals and an integrationist agenda, as the intention is to create a federal United States of Europe. This new country already has a flag, a Parliament, an anthem, Presidents, currency, a legal system, legal status and a navy - to name just a few.
The EU Commission is the guardian of the treaties and enforces EU law. More importantly, this means it is the Government of Europe which has the sole right to propose the laws which increasingly encroach on our lives here in Britain.
The Commission is made up of 28 unelected commissioners, who cannot be held to account. Each commissioner has a specific policy area in which to create laws. The Commission has a President (currently Jean-Claude Juncker); unlike the other 27 commissioners he is personally elected by the European Parliament, however his was the only name on the ballot paper, not exactly democratic. The Commission is advised by the Directorate General, which along with the Commission is heavily lobbied. Once the Commission proposes an EU law, this proposal is taken to the Parliament.
In effect, everything a nations public wants, is ignored if it goes against the drive for the EUSSR.
This is why the EU will agree to bugger all, whilst the remoaners keep grinding the wheel.
They did it to Ireland/Holland/Denmark. Wear them down until they give in.
No one democratically voted for it. Trade has been the ball and chain to keep countries members. No one voted for political union, only a common markets policy.
Who licensed a hijack?
What EU laws in particular have negatively encroached upon your life?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
Says everyone who voted Leave.Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchmagpie
Chequers is 'Remain'. I know you all think we are thick but even Wee Jimmy Krankie joined the list of Remoaners backing it yesterday.
It's not Rocket Surgery.
Any law change, not implemented by the UK government effects me and you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mapperleypie
It is not right, that laws are forced on any sovereign nation, without the ability to vote in/out politicians to implement change.
Quislings like you may think that's ok. Many of us do not.
What's scary about it, is that no one actually knows the true figure that has been whittled away from us.
Farage claimed 70%
Your democratic stooge Nick Clegg, claimed it was 7% in his debate mauling.
The consensus agrees its around the 50% mark.
Anything passing Nick Cleggs lips makes me run in the opposite direction. So put your gimp suit back on and accept we aren't all submissive's.
Nice juvenile strop, but wasn't the question "What EU laws in particular have negatively encroached upon your life?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
I think you misunderstood the question, it had nothing to do with Farage or Clegg. It was quite simple - What EU laws in particular have negatively encroached upon your life?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
Does it matter whether the rules affect you personally, or to your Country?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mapperleypie
Did millions of Brits fight two World wars because they were personally worried that the Gerries were going to invade their garden allotment?.....or were they doing it to protect their country and way of life.
The EU advocate "free movement of people" as one of their core beliefs....whether or not a group of Roma Gypsies is likely to invade Meadow Lane is neither here nor there....the EU say they have a right to wander between countries and a substantial %age of the electorate have said NO.
I also remember that nutter Hamza Hook guy taking us to the EU Courts for years, wasting British taxpayers money whilst claiming "Hooman Rights".....pity he never thought about the rights of the people he personally killed and the thousands that died as a result of his insane ramblings.
And benefits, he was living in a big house and claiming housing benefit, his family are still or at least were, still there and still claiming benefits to the tune of 650 quid a week, the ultimate piss take.Quote:
Originally Posted by tarquinbeech
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/47...3-800-benefits
I've said that all along.Quote:
Originally Posted by frenchmagpie
If Brexit is such a wonderful thing, surely after the deal is done, and all the Remainers see the light as to how good it is, a vote on te final deal will be an overwhelming 'accept'. So why are the Brexiters against it?
And for all those who use phrases like 'Remoaners', 'Cry Babies' etc., who was it who said "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it."
Farage - in other words, anything less than a 2/3 majority and we won't accept it.