Election Year or Fear!

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Originally Posted by Ram Pant

Surely, if stealing phones in, for instance, London was made nonsensical because the phone couldn't be sold and used abroad, YES, it would stop 50M quids worth of sales in London BUT there would be a corresponding sales increase in far away places because they wouldn't be able to use stolen phones.

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But in many of those places if the consumer couldn't buy a knocked off iPhone for 50 quid, they wouldn't buy / couldnt afford to buy a brand new one for 1000+ but would simply buy something affordable like a good old Nokia 3310. A stronger argument for Apple etc "letting" them be stolen is that the victim would simply buy another one him/herself from either the insurance claim money or blag another off doting parents.

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Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone

But in many of those places if the consumer couldn't buy a knocked off iPhone for 50 quid, they wouldn't buy / couldnt afford to buy a brand new one for 1000+ but would simply buy something affordable like a good old Nokia 3310. A stronger argument for Apple etc "letting" them be stolen is that the victim would simply buy another one him/herself from either the insurance claim money or blag another off doting parents.

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Don't you just love capitalism? Nowt wrong in making a few bob, IMO, as long as the workers het paid a fair wage, have decemt working conditions and their earnings enable them to enjoy a good standard of living.

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Originally Posted by Ram Pant

Surely, if stealing phones in, for instance, London was made nonsensical because the phone couldn't be sold and used abroad, YES, it would stop 50M quids worth of sales in London BUT there would be a corresponding sales increase in far away places because they wouldn't be able to use stolen phones.

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Ironically, apparently one of the biggest market for stolen iphones is China, where they make the damn things!!

I guess a stolen phone is much cheaper than a brand new one, which would be unaffordable to most of the customers for the stolen ones.

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Originally Posted by swaledale

Ironically, apparently one of the biggest market for stolen iphones is China, where they make the damn things!!

I guess a stolen phone is much cheaper than a brand new one, which would be unaffordable to most of the customers for the stolen ones.

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Don’t pretend to fully understand it, Swale, but I think it has a lot to do with western phones being able to get round Chinese internet restrictions and the growing market for spare parts.

FIFA looking a bit silly for awarding that peace prize this morning.

Peace through strength?!

Strikes me Meduro was a fraudster and effective dictator so who wouldn?t want him removed? Remains to be seen whether is results in peace

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Originally Posted by Andy_Faber

Strikes me Meduro was a fraudster and effective dictator so who wouldn?t want him removed? Remains to be seen whether is results in peace

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I know little about Maduro, but it strikes me that if you referred to Mad Trump as a ‘fraudster and effective dictator’ you wouldn’t be far wrong and could reasonably ask the same question.
Nothing at all to do with Venezuelan oil reserves of course.

Trump has already said they will get involved in Venezuelas oil business. Also said decisions should will need to be made on the next leader in Venezuela.

Surely thats for the population to decide, nothing to do with Trump and the US

I think its widely accepted its an illegal act, regime change is illegal too.

They have cited drug trafficking as the main reason, this from Trump who pardoned Hernandez recently.

Im sure there will be many happy to see Maduro gone, and with justification, but does that give the US or any other country the right to make that decision and go to war illegally wherever we dislike those in leadership?

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Originally Posted by SithHappens

Im sure there will be many happy to see Maduro gone, and with justification, but does that give the US or any other country the right to make that decision and go to war illegally wherever we dislike those in leadership?

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You’re probably right from an independent or Anti-Trump viewpoint (not saying you are) but I’m thinking of the population of Venezuela. I don’t know any Venezuelans but I know a couple of Belarusians who are quite envious