That's about the one thing she hasn't been accused of, being a bad person. I too don't think she is one. However, I stick with my 3 votes short of a majority upstairs conclusion on the good lady.Quote:
Originally Posted by ramAnag
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That's about the one thing she hasn't been accused of, being a bad person. I too don't think she is one. However, I stick with my 3 votes short of a majority upstairs conclusion on the good lady.Quote:
Originally Posted by ramAnag
No need for ‘sorry’, Parky...that’s your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone
Mine is that she’s someone who often doesn’t help herself but who has become a target of frequent misogynistic and racial attack from certain quarters and who has been judged too harshly on the basis of ill chosen words and miscalculations made at a time when, I believe, she had just started receiving treatment for Type 2 diabetes.
In truth ‘my’ Labour Party, if there is such a thing, is the one represented by Keir Starmer and Hilary Benn and to that extent I’d be happiest if we didn’t hear from Abbott at all during the election campaign. Having said that I’d take her general decency and compassion over the ignorant, disingenuous greed of those such as Gove, Rees-Mogg, Johnson and Raab etc any day.
" ill chosen words and miscalculations made at a time when, I believe, she had just started receiving treatment for Type 2 diabetes."
I have type 2 diabetes, and have had for some 10 years. I have no recollection of suddenly becoming illiterate or innumerate when I started treatment - be that diet restrictions, tablets and/or insulin. That's just an excuse - if indeed she ever expressed it a such. Far better MPs have put up with far more devastating ailments and it not descended into that chaos. Example David Blunkett
Ask your self this question: had she been Jewish, do you think she would still be in such high office (or even got there?)?
Your comparisons to Gove et al dont really get us anywhere. Its a bit like saying Viscount Halifax was a good guy when compared to Adolf Hitler.
I obviously bow to your infinitely greater knowledge of the condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone
My own awareness of T2 diabetes is limited to a friend who is a self employed electrician and his ability to work normally certainly suffered until his medication was properly and eventually regulated.
I have no idea whether or to what extent Abbott’s ethnicity has played a part in her rise within the Labour Party however, at the risk of repeating myself, I don’t have much faith in her but MA’s original point seemed to be that having such a person in potential high office might be detrimental to Labour. My point is...why just select Abbott when you look at some of the specimens who are likely to find themselves in the next potential Tory Government?
Abbott and Corbynto was one comment I saw earlier on asocial media.
"...who is a self employed electrician and his ability to work normally certainly suffered until his medication was properly and eventually reg ulated."
In a physical job then I can see there might be issues, with tiredness and a general feeling of weakness/fatigue as a result of excess blood sugar (or even low blood sugar). This can oscillate with poor control, which may be the case as you get used to the medication. In a physical job this can be debilitating, but not in a desk job such as mine or a politician
As I have readily conceded your first hand experience obviously gives you greater knowledge as regards the condition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone
I’m not sure Ms. Abbott’s appearance on QT, which if I remember correctly was where she made a fool of herself, quite constitutes the stress free environment you imply but let’s not quibble.
Point is...she clearly doesn’t impress you and I accept that she’s probably disadvantageous as far as the GE is concerned, but is she really any more unacceptable than those I have mentioned within the Tory Party or the likes of the frankly ridiculous Ann Widdecombe in the Brexit Party.
Not at all, imo...so let’s not become fixated on one individual.
Yet she has a degree from Cambridge? I don't think its a question of intelligence, its not being quick with the BS when interviewed, something a politician needs to be able to do or at least believable bull****!Quote:
Originally Posted by MadAmster
Whilst RA is right that no one person should be singled out, she is the sterotypical token placement for any party. Had she been white/straight/in any other party. She'd have been binned years ago.
1) Diane Abbot has claimed Brexit was triggered by racists who did not like seeing people who look 'foreign' on their streets. She Branded Brexiters "Stupid and Racist"
2) She said Brexit supporters had attacked ethnic minority voters afterwards but has no evidence to back this up
2) Said when people spoke about immigrants, often included people like her from ethnic minority backgrounds who had been British for generations (Her Parents are Jamaican, she has been brought up traditionally Jamaican. Her loyalties are clearly biased towards West Indian people).
3) "London shouldn't have another white middle ages mayor"
4) "Blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" are unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before"
5) Abbott tweeted "White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game" in 2012
6) Abbott suggested that taxi drivers discriminate on racial grounds, tweeting that she was "Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?"
7) Abbott captures a central political fact, which is that white people in western societies have benefited from their histories of colonial exploitation. .She used the hashtag "tactics as old as colonialism."
8) “West Indian mothers would go to the wall for their children”, suggesting others would not, Andrew Neil responded: "So black mums love their kids more than white mums, do they?" She could not bring herself to say mothers of every race love their children just as much.
9) The MP was investigated by the Committee on Standards and Privileges in 2004 when it emerged she had failed to declare earnings of £17,300 for appearances on The Week.
10) Has a charity that helps black children only in education and spent 29K of its 35K budget on a party for Parliament.
letting your Johnson make decisions whilst enjoyable at the time often leads to some interesting situations later “