"Neither is it a reason to concentrate on the failings of just one individual, Parky."
It is when the topic of conversation is that individual. To use the opportunity to slate others in a conversation about one person is obfuscatory at best
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"Neither is it a reason to concentrate on the failings of just one individual, Parky."
It is when the topic of conversation is that individual. To use the opportunity to slate others in a conversation about one person is obfuscatory at best
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Lets discuss the failings of Kelle Roos as a keeper, which is featured elsethread.
How would it be relevant to, for example, comment on the fact that Christy Pym, Richard O'Donnell and Kyle Letheren arent very good either? Adds nothing to the discussion.
:P
Tricky...Swale maybe many things and you clearly don’t approve of him anymore than you approve of me, but calling him a ‘momentum lover’ and a ‘commie arsehole’ are, imo, two of the most ridiculous things to have ever appeared on this forum. Grow up.[/QUOTE]
Swale is by far the most insulting poster on here. Yet you tell me to "grow up"
Your opinions are at best insulting everyone on the right. Dismissive and non commital on the left, whilst telling everyone your a middle ground Liberal.
.Seems to me, that means a Liberal will side with the Right if it suits, But the Left can help with your rhetoric, but you can't be seen to back them.
Aside from the fact that I had no idea who Pym, O’Donnell and Letheren were that’s not really a fair comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone
Context is everything. MA suggested, not unreasonably I accept, that Diane Abbott would be an obstacle to him voting Labour.
I argued that there were equally unfavourable and possibly more sinister obstacles preventing anyone from voting Tory so criticising Abbott’s competence was hardly a major factor in the context of a GE.
To take your comparison further...there is absolutely no point in discussing Kelle Roos in comparison with three lesser known keepers who play elsewhere. The only worthwhile comparison is with Hamer, Mitchell and possibly Carson because they are the current or longer term alternatives.
Following that logic...MA is clearly entitled to criticise Abbott on the basis of her competence but if others on the opposite side - for example Rees-Mogg and Raab - are equally lacking in competence and/or integrity then what is the point of banging on about Abbott?
Swale is by far the most insulting poster on here. Yet you tell me to "grow up"Quote:
Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
Your opinions are at best insulting everyone on the right. Dismissive and non commital on the left, whilst telling everyone your a middle ground Liberal.
.Seems to me, that means a Liberal will side with the Right if it suits, But the Left can help with your rhetoric, but you can't be seen to back them.[/QUOTE]
Swale has his moments for sure but I doubt he’s the ‘most insulting poster on here’ and he certainly isn’t a ‘commie arsehole’.
I’m perfectly happy for you to regard my comments as insulting to the ‘right’. ‘Right’ is invariably wrong in my book and the further to the ‘right’ the more wrong it becomes.
I’ll make no apology for that but I will qualify it by saying that because I oppose the ‘right’ that doesn’t mean I support the extreme left.
I most certainly don’t. It places me in the centre or somewhere marginally to the left of centre...so what...what’s wrong with that?
If politicians would grow up, abandon their egos and search for constructive coalition to the exclusion of the extremists then the world would be an infinitely better place imo.
I give upQuote:
Originally Posted by ramAnag
Stalin was responsible for the deaths of many people, so was Hitler. Lets say Stalin killed less, does that mean that because Hitler killed more, we cannot be critical of Stalin?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ramAnag
Swale has his moments for sure but I doubt he’s the ‘most insulting poster on here’ and he certainly isn’t a ‘commie arsehole’.
I’m perfectly happy for you to regard my comments as insulting to the ‘right’. ‘Right’ is invariably wrong in my book and the further to the ‘right’ the more wrong it becomes.
I’ll make no apology for that but I will qualify it by saying that because I oppose the ‘right’ that doesn’t mean I support the extreme left.
I most certainly don’t. It places me in the centre or somewhere marginally to the left of centre...so what...what’s wrong with that?
If politicians would grow up, abandon their egos and search for constructive coalition to the exclusion of the extremists then the world would be an infinitely better place imo.[/QUOTE]
RA you would think even Tricky with his withered right wing brain would know the difference between Communism and Socialism or perhaps I'm expecting to much
RA you would think even Tricky with his withered right wing brain would know the difference between Communism and Socialism or perhaps I'm expecting to much[/QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by mistaram
Not really. There's a fine line between socialism and communism.
After all, Hitlers crew started out under the socialist pact.
Communism and socialism started off with the same roots, the exploitation of workers.
It appears that even our own politicians have no idea of socialism means, and who its champions are.
Take Dianne here, who thinks Mao was a man to be admired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA
So think again when spouting the socialist crap. Exactly who has ever got rich or had a free life under socialism? Don't quote me the text book here, we all know that is never carried out. It wasn't 5 minutes ago that Corbyn was spouting Venezuela as a shining light of socialism.
On paper it looks great, but invariably it leads to economic disaster.
Funny how the EU promotes socialism as it's driving force, but lets be honest. Really?
https://71republic.com/2018/08/13/eu...mmunist-roots/
Not at all, I accept that point completely but we’re talking about imminent choice at a GE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geoff Parkstone
Most agree that Abbott is an electoral disadvantage. For some - most definitely not you or MA - that may be because she’s an odd looking, overweight, opinionated black woman. For others, including many of the more reasonable on here, it will be because of doubts about her competency.
On the other hand the alternative/opposite side includes a number of equally incompetent and arguably more disreputable candidates including, in the opinion of many, Abbott’s opposite number...the objectionable Priti Patel.
I’m not saying for a moment that this somehow should alter our view of Abbott’s level of competence. I’m simply suggesting that we should stop fixating on Abbott because the alternative is no better so it gets us nowhere.
There really isn’t any serious level of disagreement between us here so let’s move on.
Not really. There's a fine line between socialism and communism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trickytreesreds
After all, Hitlers crew started out under the socialist pact.
Communism and socialism started off with the same roots, the exploitation of workers.
It appears that even our own politicians have no idea of socialism means, and who its champions are.
Take Dianne here, who thinks Mao was a man to be admired.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB4o5n2EGyA
So think again when spouting the socialist crap. Exactly who has ever got rich or had a free life under socialism? Don't quote me the text book here, we all know that is never carried out. It wasn't 5 minutes ago that Corbyn was spouting Venezuela as a shining light of socialism.
On paper it looks great, but invariably it leads to economic disaster.
Funny how the EU promotes socialism as it's driving force, but lets be honest. Really?
https://71republic.com/2018/08/13/eu...mmunist-roots/[/QUOTE]
So it's ok for your right wing Tories to go cap in hand to Communist China for trade is it ie Teresa May