O/T: The Iron Lady

Hillsborough

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Originally Posted by Cannylad

Pick the winners out of this lot, not many.

Winston Churchill (1951–55; 2nd time)
Anthony Eden (1955–57)
Harold Macmillan (1957–63)
Alec Douglas-Home (1963–64)
Harold Wilson (1964–70; 1st time)
Edward Heath (1970–74)
Harold Wilson (1974–76; 2nd time)
James Callaghan (1976–79)
Margaret Thatcher (1979–90)
John Major (1990–97)
Tony Blair (1997–2007)
Gordon Brown (2007–10)
David Cameron (2010–16 )
Theresa May (2016– )

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out of that list the only one i look at that to me came out with any sort of d=credence/reputation intact was Harold Wilson.

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Originally Posted by Cannylad

Pick the winners out of this lot, not many.

Winston Churchill (1951–55; 2nd time)
Anthony Eden (1955–57)
Harold Macmillan (1957–63)
Alec Douglas-Home (1963–64)
Harold Wilson (1964–70; 1st time)
Edward Heath (1970–74)
Harold Wilson (1974–76; 2nd time)
James Callaghan (1976–79)
Margaret Thatcher (1979–90)
John Major (1990–97)
Tony Blair (1997–2007)
Gordon Brown (2007–10)
David Cameron (2010–16 )
Theresa May (2016– )

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I did well out of Thatcher and Major.

Respected and looked after the armed forces and public services.

Not like now.

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Originally Posted by Cannylad

Pick the winners out of this lot, not many.

Winston Churchill (1951–55; 2nd time)
Anthony Eden (1955–57)
Harold Macmillan (1957–63)
Alec Douglas-Home (1963–64)
Harold Wilson (1964–70; 1st time)
Edward Heath (1970–74)
Harold Wilson (1974–76; 2nd time)
James Callaghan (1976–79)
Margaret Thatcher (1979–90)
John Major (1990–97)
Tony Blair (1997–2007)
Gordon Brown (2007–10)
David Cameron (2010–16 )
Theresa May (2016– )

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Both James Callaghan and Gordon Brown had to deal with the problems left by their predecessors and the Tory governments in power just before their predecessors.

Had they both started with a clean sheet then they both might have had decent tems of leadership.

Aye. But no one starts with a clean sheet Pat.

Didn't the out going chancellor declare it to his followers. There's **** all left- on a post it note?

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Originally Posted by Stanleymag

Aye. But no one starts with a clean sheet Pat.

Didn't the out going chancellor declare it to his followers. There's **** all left- on a post it note?

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You are right there Stan. Each new one only gets in because the previous lot have made such a mess of things that a change is needed.

It's been a continuous cycle since the birth of politics. We have been living in hope for hundreds of years and little changes. B)

blair and brown hated her that much they used her dna to get elected
they realised old labour didnt work
and you can slate maggie all you want for getting rid of manufacturing (the unions did by makeing us non competitive and the workers for producing ****e products) but labour have been in at least for 12 years since she has been gone and still not got us back as a manufacturing country

getting raw materials here is a major factor in that but im sure you cant blame maggie for us being an island

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Originally Posted by Stanleymag

Aye. But no one starts with a clean sheet Pat.

Didn't the out going chancellor declare it to his followers. There's **** all left- on a post it note?

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yep 12 years of labour and there was phuck allleft

brown was that desperate for power he spent the lot
didnt he also say there will be no boom and bust under him and we went into the biggest ever ecession in our klife times as he failed to control his mates in the city

did he not also say british jobs for british workers and then opened up the borders to all

maggie done what she said

brown and blair were just power hungry people wanting to get away from the councill streets they say they came from and get on the gravy train created by maggie

and blair has the blood of thousands of servicemen n his hands from his weapons of mass destruction lie
maggie took us to the falklands and whilst many died
they didnt do it to cuddle up to the americans and their oil men

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Originally Posted by pboromag

yep 12 years of labour and there was phuck allleft

brown was that desperate for power he spent the lot
didnt he also say there will be no boom and bust under him and we went into the biggest ever ecession in our klife times as he failed to control his mates in the city

did he not also say british jobs for british workers and then opened up the borders to all

maggie done what she said

brown and blair were just power hungry people wanting to get away from the councill streets they say they came from and get on the gravy train created by maggie

and blair has the blood of thousands of servicemen n his hands from his weapons of mass destruction lie
maggie took us to the falklands and whilst many died
they didnt do it to cuddle up to the americans and their oil men

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I agree with this. :O