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Originally Posted by Ret urnofrros

And I'll say again bcram .....Boris has fluked it.....real hero's for me are the Tory rebels the newer MPs, especially from the north of England, probably lost their chance at promotion but went with natural instincts and pressure from constituents to send warning shot over Johnson's bow.

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My opinion, it was no fluke. He did get the confidence to argue in Cabinet for delay because if his understanding that there were many Tories who think, like you and Deeranged, that the experts and NHS were saying and getting what they wanted. He played a blinder by backing all the Tories who wanted their corrupt chum declared innocent and the rules rewritten. Seems to me that he is at last getting some parliamentary oversight of decisions and if he can just get the system to prove that they can cope he might get these special measures withdrawn in Westminster. Some puss shutter for Nicola etc.
Maybe a bit optimistic but let's wait and see.

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Originally Posted by BCram

jdfc, I have no practical experience of a trade union and reading the posts here there seems to be Deeranged point of view where they are useless and a more moderate support from them by you. What can unions do to help Labour but not nationalism. Genuine question.

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I think a good inion will fight for good working conditions, and a fair days pay for a fair days work, try and get away from a, them and us mentality,
I would like to see things like the railways, gas, electricity and water go back to being government run, the unions I would say were a problem in these industries in the past, but a fair days pay etc then the need for industrial action diminishes

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Originally Posted by BCram

My opinion, it was no fluke. He did get the confidence to argue in Cabinet for delay because if his understanding that there were many Tories who think, like you and Deeranged, that the experts and NHS were saying and getting what they wanted. He played a blinder by backing all the Tories who wanted their corrupt chum declared innocent and the rules rewritten. Seems to me that he is at last getting some parliamentary oversight of decisions and if he can just get the system to prove that they can cope he might get these special measures withdrawn in Westminster. Some puss shutter for Nicola etc.
Maybe a bit optimistic but let's wait and see.

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I don't think he has a conservative bone in his body.....a populist who has no real beliefs apart from power for the sake of power.

If you listen to radio Scotland (I do now and again to hear what the enemy is saying) they are pushing the mantra Herr Furious has got this right and Doris has got it wrong ....what radio Scotland fail to mention is Engurland have few restrictions whilst we are getting telt to do nothing, go nowhere, see no one for a 1000 or so less cases (which mean the square root of **** all) per 100k of population, Wales has even more cases than Engurland despite restrictions but they just won't admit it makes hee haw difference

Miss BAFTA is gonna continue down this route till spring then start again in Autumn ....her powers need removed.

Remember we have never been out of restriction the famous level 0 was for the purpose of bringing back more come winter.

So basically lose your freedom for 1% less cases than Engurland and of those 1% around 0.2% of the 1% will be anything like badly ill and by my maths around 0.13% of the 0.2% will need hospitalised.....it's complete and utter stupidity

No I take that back, it's not stupid it's playing God with people's freedom, ruining people's mental health and possibly closing hundreds of businesses for political gerrymandering.

It's sick

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

I don't think he has a conservative bone in his body.....a populist who has no real beliefs apart from power for the sake of power.

If you listen to radio Scotland (I do now and again to hear what the enemy is saying) they are pushing the mantra Herr Furious has got this right and Doris has got it wrong ....what radio Scotland fail to mention is Engurland have few restrictions whilst we are getting telt to do nothing, go nowhere, see no one for a 1000 or so less cases (which mean the square root of **** all) per 100k of population, Wales has even more cases than Engurland despite restrictions but they just won't admit it makes hee haw difference

Miss BAFTA is gonna continue down this route till spring then start again in Autumn ....her powers need removed.

Remember we have never been out of restriction the famous level 0 was for the purpose of bringing back more come winter.

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I am hoping that some of the non Nationalist supporting papers might start to make these points, or MSP's might ask her a question that seeks an explanation for the lack of any statical support for her policies. You would think every politician would like an explanation.

Lost a lot of faith in the unions when I saw what the top boys were earning. Sort of defeated the purpose imo. I likened it to the heads of charities earning over the top salaries. I suppose it depends on your workplace tho and your conditions.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

So basically lose your freedom for 1% less cases than Engurland and of those 1% around 0.2% of the 1% will be anything like badly ill and by my maths around 0.13% of the 0.2% will need hospitalised.....it's complete and utter stupidity

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Wrong way round 1 in 20 has it in England and 1 in 15 in Scotland.

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Originally Posted by The AuldYin

Wrong way round 1 in 20 has it in England and 1 in 15 in Scotland.

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So despite having far less freedom than England, scotland and Wales have worse case numbers......yet on it goes restrictions and control for restrictions and controls sake yet the MSM and Herr furious most loyal sycophants continue to insist what a marvelous job she's doing.

King Canute the woman who thought she could control mother nature by ego alone

Macron wants to restrict those not vaccinated from pubs theatres etc.
To "piss them off" wtaf