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Originally Posted by notso

Yes well I do , means testing is not the way forward and never should be , I’ll ask you do you think it’s fair a man/ woman lying in a nursing home worked hard all their lives and own their house , should have pay for their keep with their bought and paid for house , while some guy lying next to them hasn’t done a days work in his life never paid taxes gets his stay for free ? To me if your entitled due to age then you should get it no matter your savings , that’s bus pass, nursing stay or season ticket to dens

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Where this is going barmy notso is everyone is becoming entitled .......like my free central heating system .....I honestly could afford my own......but I'm not gonna pay if someone else is.

I agree there should be no punishment for aspiration, aspiration is good and shouldn't be punished.....but we have to move away from entitlement........and we will given what we have spent on COVID.

It's like council tax, why should you buying and paying for a bigger house cost you more than someone who uses more water, has more bodies in the house, more bins to empty.

Just noticed I support aspiration whilst supporting a fitba team that has none 🙄

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Originally Posted by jdfc

Do you think that a 60 year old in full time employment, possibly mortgage free should have free bus travel

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Why not.
A 60 year old person who has not worked a day in their life and lived off the ‘social’ is also entitled to a free bus pass.
The 60 year old person who has been in full time employment throughout their working life has paid their taxes to pay for the Scottish Government National Entitlement Card (bus pass) which is paid for by the money the Scottish Government receives from the Westminster Government under the rules of the Barnett Formula.

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Originally Posted by notso

Yes well I do , means testing is not the way forward and never should be , I’ll ask you do you think it’s fair a man/ woman lying in a nursing home worked hard all their lives and own their house , should have pay for their keep with their bought and paid for house , while some guy lying next to them hasn’t done a days work in his life never paid taxes gets his stay for free ? To me if your entitled due to age then you should get it no matter your savings , that’s bus pass, nursing stay or season ticket to dens

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I agree with everything you say.
However I will take things a stage further regarding nursing homes and care homes fees which some posters on here might not be aware of.
A person resident in a care home or nursing home who pays their own fees pays higher fees to subside the cost of people having their care home or nursing home fees paid by their local authority.
The local authority does a ‘deal’ with the owners of a care home or nursing home whereby the local authority pays a lower weekly rate whilst the residents paying their own weekly fees (they are known as self funders) pay a higher weekly rate to offset this loss in income by the owners of the care homes and nursing homes.
My father was a resident of a nursing home and I remember my brother saying to me that every resident in his nursing home was a self funder so they were getting full value for money instead of paying an inflated weekly fee to subsidise residents whose weekly fees are paid by their local authority.
Politicians will never tell you about this anomaly regarding care homes and nursing homes where people are being penalised for trying to better themselves.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Where this is going barmy notso is everyone is becoming entitled .......like my free central heating system .....I honestly could afford my own......but I'm not gonna pay if someone else is.

I agree there should be no punishment for aspiration, aspiration is good and shouldn't be punished.....but we have to move away from entitlement........and we will given what we have spent on COVID.

It's like council tax, why should you buying and paying for a bigger house cost you more than someone who uses more water, has more bodies in the house, more bins to empty.

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That is why the Community Charge was a perfect system to pay for local authority services.
However people with 4 wages coming into a house would rather pay the same local taxes (rates, now called council tax) as a widow living on her own in the same size of house.
I would scrap Council Tax and bring in a local sales tax. That would mean people who have more money to spend would contribute more money through a local sales tax than a poorer person.
Holiday makers travelling to stay on a Scottish island such as Islay would contribute to the cost of local authority services through a local sales tax whereas as present the local hotels, guest houses and people who rent out their self catering properties get all the benefits while the local council taxpayer pays for the cost of extra damage to the roads and the uplift of more litter lying about.
Don’t get me started about the Scottish Government ‘flagship’ Small Business Bonus Scheme which is ultimately paid for by everyone throughout Scotland including Dundee and is abused by some people on Islay.
A local sales tax would also stop all the parasites who live in Monifieth, Carnoustie, Birkhill, Invergowrie, Newport, Tayport and Wormit coming to Dundee to do their shopping in Tesco and Asda whilst paying a lower Council Tax living in Angus, Perthshire and Fife.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

National Entitlement Card.

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And there you have it. A sense of entitlement is enshrined in society.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Where this is going barmy notso is everyone is becoming entitled .......like my free central heating system .....I honestly could afford my own......but I'm not gonna pay if someone else is.

I agree there should be no punishment for aspiration, aspiration is good and shouldn't be punished.....but we have to move away from entitlement........and we will given what we have spent on COVID.

It's like council tax, why should you buying and paying for a bigger house cost you more than someone who uses more water, has more bodies in the house, more bins to empty.

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My father also received a new free central heating system because he was aged over 70. From memory the deal was a new Combi gas fired boiler which is fine as long as there are no long power cuts and 6 radiators. My father had to pay for the extra radiator he required for all the rooms in his house. He also received free loft insulation. He already had loft insulation but this was ripped out and replaced with new thicker insulation.
However the combi boiler is not the best on the market and my father was subsequently told by a heating engineer that the radiators were not the best.
This does not surprise as you get what you pay for and no doubt the Government department running this scheme ‘did a deal’ to get the boiler and radiators at the lowest cost whilst the Government gets the maximum publicity for the scheme.

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Originally Posted by Deeranged

And there you have it. A sense of entitlement is enshrined in society.

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Blame Alex Salmond. He was the First Minister when the National Entitlement Card scheme was introduced.
It could have easily been called ‘Free national bus pass’.

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Originally Posted by Returnofrros

Just noticed I support aspiration whilst supporting a fitba team that has none ��

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You should write a letter to John Nelms telling him about your concerns regarding the lack of aspiration by the management and directors of Dundee Football Club.

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Originally Posted by islaydarkblue

You should write a letter to John Nelms telling him about your concerns regarding the lack of aspiration by the management and directors of Dundee Football Club.

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Still waiting on reply re hoses.😁