McClean whinging again.

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Originally Posted by John2

Who started this political thread?

Why do you have a go at me but not them?

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Post something about football you ****ing tool

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

Who is fishing on this thread?

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John and Kerr are. Commie sh1tes. Never talk about footy either. Ban em Cam

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

John and Kerr are. Commie sh1tes. Never talk about footy either. Ban em Cam

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Pathetic response.

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

Pathetic response.

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Woooosh

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Originally Posted by ragingpup

John and Kerr are. Commie sh1tes. Never talk about footy either. Ban em Cam

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This thread slipped down the board I guessed one of three would bring it back up,you Kerr & John you never disappoint. It’s run it’s coarse you have had your say let it drop.You do talk about football I will give you that.

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Originally Posted by Lolmorgan

This thread slipped down the board I guessed one of three would bring it back up,you Kerr & John you never disappoint. It’s run it’s coarse you have had your say let it drop.You do talk about football I will give you that.

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I haven't expressed a political point on this thread Lol. I was just satirising much of the content. Think that is somewhat lost on some but thought that some might appreciate it, even if clearly some don't!

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Originally Posted by howdydoo

Who is fishing on this thread?

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In fairness, I did a bit of fishing.

I don't know why I bothered though. The usual suspect jumps into my keepnet without the need for bait or tackle.

I got into this thread by asking a question about a post that interested me. I don't think that's unreasonable. It's what this board should be about.

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Originally Posted by John2

Yes, I do agree with his actions, because I value free speech.

I have a huge admiration and respect for those people who died for our freedoms.

We live in a country where I am allowed to say that I don't believe in god, or that I don't support the monarchy.

I'm also acutely aware that many of the people that died for this country will have disagreed with me on those things.

The reality is, thanks in great part to many of those people, I do enjoy that free speech - statements which in the past I could have been given the death penalty for in this country, and still could be in others.

That's the whole point of free speech, the thing I value about it, is it applies to everyone.

I'm quite happy to be strongly disagreed with when I say these things. That's free speech too. I don't come here expressing my views and getting upset when people oppose them.

I just think it would be very sad for our country if people felt uncomfortable saying things not because people were going to disagree with them (which is fine), but rather because they knew they were going to be subjected to abuse.

So, in summary, I think those who dish out such abuse are actually doing a disservice to those who died for our freedom.

In a way, by saying what he believes, McClean is doing more to honour the sacrifice that those have made for this country than those who would gladly have opposing views to theirs subjected to so much abuse that people don't feel comfortable expressing them.

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Being a monarchist and detesting wokery & Marxism in all its forms, its not very often I agree with you John but you are right about this. The freedom to offend is what political freedom is all about - any clown can perch on one knee and pretend that makes them a good person but quietly allowing others to express their disturbing views takes real conviction.

He is just a vile man, he plays the big hard man but goes running to the authorities if he gets called a few names, pathetic individual and unfortunately we live in a world where such weak behaviour is promoted and supported.

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Originally Posted by mellowmiller

You make some valid points John2 but we don't really have free speech in this country do we?
If someone chooses to make what are considered adverse comments about certain subjects they are immediately labelled as some kind of "ist" or "phobe." They may even be accused of using "hate speech" which is a relatively new invention.
Effectively we are told what we must think about certain subjects and dissenting voices are pilloried and maybe even prosecuted.
That doesn't feel much like free speech

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You are completely right Mellowmiller. The Marxist woke mob (who seem to have quietly taken over our country and changed our laws to support their aims) routinely hate free speech - unless it is something that they agree with.