O/T:- The CV19 Legacy

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Originally Posted by Chinawhite1000

Jeez - War and peace or what? I think that was maybe the point though...

Don't worry about Notts being another Wrexham - who have been in the NL for 12/13 years... Notts will be very unlucky if they get past 2/3 seasons... Barrow as my club and as many have noted have been down here for 48 years, which makes Wrexham look like Non-League part-timers... I'm sure unlike Notts, Wrexham may make the 48 years - unless they have been kicked sideways to the League of Wales by then...

As for this seasons promotion - well the play offs won't happen, but as of yet no-one knows how many will go up - it will be either 1,2 or 3.. all dependant on the PL/EFL... hopefully by the time things are sorted both teams will be in the EFL.

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Ah, would that my enjoyment of writing was accompanied by the skill of Tolstoy.

Although War and Peace is, I guess, a good summary of the post!

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Originally Posted by Elite_Pie

You didn't defend Boris & Co in your thread. My observation was based on my belief that you defend them on most threads, or at least you never mention or appear to see any wrong in their actions. No problem with that if you belong to the Soccerman / seriouspie school where the Tories can never do anything wrong, my problem occurs when you pretend to be completely unbiased.

I have said it a couple of times before, it's a bit weird how you are always completely unbiased in favour of the right!

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I don't respond to the likes of Soccerman ( I gave that up ages ago) because his posts are not worth the time, but he winds you up and you can't help yourself from responding to him.
I voted Alex Norris in the election before last and he is Labour and I didn't vote for anyone in the last one because I don't trust any of them, including Boris. In your eyes I suppose that makes me a member of the BNP.
I have also said I enjoy playing devils advocate in response to the so predictable and boring political bias this board is becoming.
The reaction on here is just a re run of the brexit debate where the left are the knowalls and scruffy idle commies and the right are the thick racist bigots with it seems no in between.

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Originally Posted by pingu_pie

My favourite part was Soccerman instantly proving me correct in two different respects to what I posted.

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I knew he would prove you correct, I just didn't think it would be in the very next post!

Just to make his reply to me a bit more challenging, he has to avoid the terms 'loser' and 'gambling addict'.

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Originally Posted by i961pie

My friends and family are not criticising anyone they are saying that not everyone over there are in the Arden fan club.With hindsight she could have done things differently. That was my point all governments will face criticism from some quarters.

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Sorry, I’m not sure I’m understanding. Your friends and family aren’t critical of her, but they are saying that some people are? So with 20 deaths IN TOTAL and no new cases today, what do those people think she should have done differently?

Or are you saying all governments receive criticism so therefore any criticism of Boris Johnson and his government, no matter how well informed and on the face of it unbiased, is rendered null and void?

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Originally Posted by i961pie

I don't respond to the likes of Soccerman ( I gave that up ages ago) because his posts are not worth the time, but he winds you up and you can't help yourself from responding to him.

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He doesn't wind me up, I just enjoy exposing him for what he is. He hasn't got the brains to counter it!

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Originally Posted by i961pie

I have also said I enjoy playing devils advocate in response to the so predictable and boring political bias this board is becoming.

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I might believe that if you occasionally played devil's advocate to such as Soccerman or seriouspie. You never, ever do.

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Originally Posted by BigFatPie

Sorry, I’m not sure I’m understanding. Your friends and family aren’t critical of her, but they are saying that some people are? So with 20 deaths IN TOTAL and no new cases today, what do those people think she should have done differently?

Or are you saying all governments receive criticism so therefore any criticism of Boris Johnson and his government, no matter how well informed and on the face of it unbiased, is rendered null and void?

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Sorry it is you and Elite that keep mentioning Boris and his government I haven't. I said all governments will get criticism from certain quarters no matter who they are.
They have made mistakes which I have said in the past, should have acted sooner, they should never have allowed the Cheltenham festival to go ahead with a quarter of a million in attendance over 4 days, or allowing 3,000 Spanish football fans into the country when Spain was on partial lockdown to play Liverpool with 50,000 of their fans.That was criminal.
The day of reckoning will come if the government are to blame for everything you say they are and then Mr Starmer will have his day in the sunshine. But no matter what this government does the same suspects will criticise and it will be the same when Labour get in. So predictable.

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Originally Posted by Elite_Pie

He doesn't wind me up, I just enjoy exposing him for what he is. He hasn't got the brains to counter it!



I might believe that if you occasionally played devil's advocate to such as Soccerman or seriouspie. You never, ever do.

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Because there is nothing worth responding to, most people ignore or laugh at some of the things they say and it is obvious they love winding you up.
It is mainly only you who does respond especially to Soccerman nearly every one else ignores him.

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Originally Posted by i961pie

Sorry it is you and Elite that keep mentioning Boris and his government I haven't. I said all governments will get criticism from certain quarters no matter who they are.
They have made mistakes which I have said in the past, should have acted sooner, they should never have allowed the Cheltenham festival to go ahead with a quarter of a million in attendance over 4 days, or allowing 3,000 Spanish football fans into the country when Spain was on partial lockdown to play Liverpool with 50,000 of their fans.That was criminal.
The day of reckoning will come if the government are to blame for everything you say they are and then Mr Starmer will have his day in the sunshine. But no matter what this government does the same suspects will criticise and it will be the same when Labour get in. So predictable.

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The whole point I was originally making it that just because Johnson and his government have been criminally negligent it doesn’t automatically follow that that any consequences will follow. Have you seen how this crisis has been covered so far? That’s why I linked to articles from foreign media.

It was you who brought up Ardern and her government as a comparison because apparently unknown people have criticised her for unknown reasons. But yes. So predictable.

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Originally Posted by i961pie

But no matter what this government does the same suspects will criticise.

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The trick is to decide whether the criticism has validity or is just based on political point scoring. It is quite possible that we will end up with the worst death toll in Europe, but if you dismiss that as simply point scoring you are even more biased than I thought.

Have you ever considered that the government have handled this crisis badly and the criticism is fully justified? Thought not.

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Originally Posted by pingu_pie

My least favourite part was realising that most people will skip it, but poor old Swale is almost obliged to read it. Sorry Swale :/

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No worries Pingu, all part of the service here at your local, friendly NCM. Honest.