Mark Ogren....

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Originally Posted by GUNBOAT

Having read my post back i stick by it 100% and could not give a flying phuck about the stick i will receive for it later today but to anyone who fails to get the gist,Mark Ogren by asking for a further cash injection from the DUSF has opened us up to speculation from the media and others that we are on the verge of collapse.
I really need to make this comparison although i know its embarrassing,in the week a Premiership chairman who's fans have poured in millions during a pandemic asks for more help a Championship club with a 27 game season and a fraction of our revenue managed to sign 3 players.

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Can see partly where you are coming from. Why is him asking the dusf for money they have raised to help utd been all over the papers?Think it is just a way of dfc thompsons having a go at utd making out that a foundation giving the money it has raised to help a club to that club. Why is it not just kept between the two organisations?The way I got it money raised by the foundation was to help utd this is when they need the most help so don't understand why you don't want him to ask for their help just now?Hearts foundation has pumped millions in to help their club and have not see their foundation or club being slagged in the press for it.I f our own fans are thinking that utd getting money from the dusf is embarrassing then dfc thomsons are winning.Just a question what do you think dusf should do with the money they raise to help utd if not give it to utd to help them?

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Originally Posted by GUNBOAT

Having read my post back i stick by it 100% and could not give a flying phuck about the stick i will receive for it later today but to anyone who fails to get the gist,Mark Ogren by asking for a further cash injection from the DUSF has opened us up to speculation from the media and others that we are on the verge of collapse.
I really need to make this comparison although i know its embarrassing,in the week a Premiership chairman who's fans have poured in millions during a pandemic asks for more help a Championship club with a 27 game season and a fraction of our revenue managed to sign 3 players.

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The championship club you talk of that is splashing the money in the middle of a pandemic has a history of money mismanagment and ripping of creditors,They don't even own their own home don't think they are an example we want to copy.

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Originally Posted by TerryTheTerror

They were just given half a million pounds and don't need to pay it back.

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I know that but they still have staff to pay and other running costs,we shifted over 5000 season tickets,have PPV money coming in and have prize money of between 1 and 1.5 million still to come.
My main point is,were the club in such a desperate state that only more money from the DUSF could save it?.The answer i believe is no as its a drop in the ocean.
There is no doubt though that many fans will be worried,the press have had a field day and the Funsters think we are joining them in the ADMIN club.

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Originally Posted by AraBrian

The championship club you talk of that is splashing the money in the middle of a pandemic has a history of money mismanagment and ripping of creditors,They don't even own their own home don't think they are an example we want to copy.

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Agree 100%.I still think the way this has been handled by our board and Sporting Director is wrong.Maybe i should have used other Premiership clubs as a comparision.
As far as i'm aware none of our rivals have asked fans for more money to be put into their clubs,many of them have a much smaller fan base than us and have generated much less in income.
The only club so far who have said anything of note was Kilmarnock who warned fans they would need to take out the government loan.
Its true that the Sheep chairman is always pleading poverty but then a few days later they sign another player,Hibs also did the same.

Wishful thinking from across the road. The money from DUSF is to help with the running costs. I have no doubt that even without this we wld survive, all be it on a shoe string. Any team in the funs position wld have bank the cash, gained a wee bit off interest and looked to the long term. They are not going to win the league and just maybe might make it through the playoffs. But and it is a big BUT if they don’t and crowds aren’t allowed in until near end of year! Then they cld well be teetering on the bring of Admin 3.

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Originally Posted by GUNBOAT

Agree 100%.I still think the way this has been handled by our board and Sporting Director is wrong.Maybe i should have used other Premiership clubs as a comparision.
As far as i'm aware none of our rivals have asked fans for more money to be put into their clubs,many of them have a much smaller fan base than us and have generated much less in income.
The only club so far who have said anything of note was Kilmarnock who warned fans they would need to take out the government loan.
Its true that the Sheep chairman is always pleading poverty but then a few days later they sign another player,Hibs also did the same.

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Yeah don't know why utd let dfc thomsons know all their business unless they have a leak.If they wanted to ask the dusf to release more funds to help with the running of the club then should have been between them no need for dfc thomsons or the dense accountancy lot to be involved.Think every team in our league is desperate for money will all have there own way of getting by but think will all be using every money stream that is open to them.Utd askin the dusf to release funds to help them will just be one of the streams they are using to keep the club going and the way I understand it that is what the dusf is all about raising money to help the club out.The owner is probably a millionaire but I have no Idea how much he has pumped into utd but guessing a lot lot more than me and he aint even a utd supporter or was not till he bought us.As I said hearts foundation have pumped millions into their club and that seems alright because thats what they are there for but dusf give utd some money and the shi. hits the fan.

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Originally Posted by Arabknight

Wishful thinking from across the road. The money from DUSF is to help with the running costs. I have no doubt that even without this we wld survive, all be it on a shoe string. Any team in the funs position wld have bank the cash, gained a wee bit off interest and looked to the long term. They are not going to win the league and just maybe might make it through the playoffs. But and it is a big BUT if they don’t and crowds aren’t allowed in until near end of year! Then they cld well be teetering on the bring of Admin 3.

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Yes your right mate we have been doon this path more than once in the past.Its still celebrated to this day by D C Thomson and the Whitehall in documentary and stage play format.
With the likes of Eric and others coming on here they are currently going through the smugness phase,i remember similar behaviour in the past with the Scott Robertson signing.

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Originally Posted by AraBrian

Yeah don't know why utd let dfc thomsons know all their business unless they have a leak.If they wanted to ask the dusf to release more funds to help with the running of the club then should have been between them no need for dfc thomsons or the dense accountancy lot to be involved.Think every team in our league is desperate for money will all have there own way of getting by but think will all be using every money stream that is open to them.Utd askin the dusf to release funds to help them will just be one of the streams they are using to keep the club going and the way I understand it that is what the dusf is all about raising money to help the club out.The owner is probably a millionaire but I have no Idea how much he has pumped into utd but guessing a lot lot more than me and he aint even a utd supporter or was not till he bought us.As I said hearts foundation have pumped millions into their club and that seems alright because thats what they are there for but dusf give utd some money and the shi. hits the fan.

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Your last sentence is 100% correct,that is what the DUSF is there for and its why i joined up.Was it not also Dee C Thomson who did the team photo exclusive as well?.

The Americans want there fancy resort at campy and the Ogrens wants a training academy in the city to sell assets for big profit , with both clubs spending way out with their means could a possible merger be on the cards one thing about Americans is they won’t care about the history of both clubs if they decide to go down this route and there is nothing any of the two teams could do to stop it.

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Originally Posted by GUNBOAT

Yes your right mate we have been doon this path more than once in the past.Its still celebrated to this day by D C Thomson and the Whitehall in documentary and stage play format.
With the likes of Eric and others coming on here they are currently going through the smugness phase,i remember similar behaviour in the past with the Scott Robertson signing.

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Yeah thats when they christened their selfs the man city of the north XD XD